Posted on 05/01/2005 12:22:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
So, a McDonalds on every corner and Walmart in every village is the answer, huh?
Capitalism in and of itself is cause of aggression. So what happens when the whole world practices capitalism and every nation competes for the finite resources? The one with the biggest stick will get the most. That's the way it's been and that's the way it will be.
He is the commander in Chief and nothing in the constiution or in law procribes differently. Period.
As far as letting such states enjoy the benefits of free trade to arm themselves to the teeth, well..
FYI ping
However this sentence... called for developing earth-penetrating nuclear bombs to destroy hidden underground military facilities, including those for storing WMD and ballistic missiles.
...my first thought was wondering if we don't actually already have them.
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" It may seem like we are caving in to dictators,"
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IT IS caving to Dictators. You don't spread freedom and democracy by giving in to and propping up dictators who want to destroy us.
That's a pretty twisted reading of the Constitution. The President has the responsibility to conduct wars that Congress authorizes and not otherwise per Article I, Section 8, Clauses 1 & 11:
Clause 11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
Still wanna play, Kim Jong?
"The societies in China and Saudi Arabia are slowly liberalizing as we do trade with them."
15 years ago Chinese students were willing to die for democracy. Today Chinese students are willing to die to get a Japanese head on a pike. 15 years ago Chinese students erected a replica of the statue of Liberty. Today they revile the United States and couldn't care less about democratic reforms as long as they can get a good job and a nice car. Dreams of democracy have given way to dreams of Asian domination and superpower status. The recent prosperity in China has given the CCP a new mandate among the people and enabled them to build up their military to a point that it has become a threat to U.S. interests and U.S. allies in the region. You want to extend that model to Iran, Cuba, and North Korea?
Maybe they are testing the water.
Kim Jong-il has a bad worse hair day.
AMF!
France, Germany, Japan, and virtually all other industrialized Western countries have no restictions on trading with Cuba yet they are not investing in that country or in North Korea. The reason is called "communism."
The myth that the US boycott is keeping Cuba poor is just that, a myth. It's one broadcast by Castro and parroted here by lefties and by the ignorant.
"All NK has to export is starving people, drugs, counterfeit currency, and weapons."
More reason to lift the war on drugs...
"Capitalism in and of itself is cause of aggression. So what happens when the whole world practices capitalism and every nation competes for the finite resources? The one with the biggest stick will get the most. That's the way it's been and that's the way it will be."
You sure your a conservative? Perhaps you are a visiting liberal...cool with me either way..anyway in argument for capitalism...capitalist nations are the most efficient societies. The places with the best environments are the first world nations, where techonology has improved the environment, and third world nations, where there isn't enough industry to cause pollutions. The developing nations are the biggest polluters...but once they become first world...it will get better there as well. What does this have to do with fighting for resources, when every nation becomes first world...they will all use resources efficiently. Of course there would have to be growing pains.
"IT IS caving to Dictators. You don't spread freedom and democracy by giving in to and propping up dictators who want to destroy us."
You don't do it with violent government assisted coups either. It's just temporary change. For example, I hope the best for Iraq, but I just don't think that democracy is going to last due to the method of doing so. There were no grass roots..you just planted sod on a desert..and that sod will die. You don't change minds with violence, you are just coercing them. And also..what is the sense of denying new friends?
"15 years ago Chinese students were willing to die for democracy. Today Chinese students are willing to die to get a Japanese head on a pike. 15 years ago Chinese students erected a replica of the statue of Liberty. Today they revile the United States and couldn't care less about democratic reforms as long as they can get a good job and a nice car. Dreams of democracy have given way to dreams of Asian domination and superpower status. The recent prosperity in China has given the CCP a new mandate among the people and enabled them to build up their military to a point that it has become a threat to U.S. interests and U.S. allies in the region. You want to extend that model to Iran, Cuba, and North Korea?"
Well it appears to be nationalistic BS on both sides doesn't it? The collective idea of superiority and domination. Anyway, I thought this was about freedom and promoting democracy rather than promoting US interests, and the Chinese people are now better off than they were 15 years ago. Give it time...China will become a democracy that will stand the test of time in a couple generations. The grass roots are in..we just have to let them go.
communist china and communist russia are behind the 'rogue states' problem.
Bush knows this.
So do the joint cheifs.
the cold war ended.
a hot one is coming.
I might agree with you about China given the vast amount of corruption. I doubt they'll kill their golden goose (trade with the West). If the Chinese economy collapses, it's hard to predict what they may do to retain power and distract the populace. Iran and North Korea are cut from different cloth. Iran is a state sponsor of Islamic fundamentalism. North Korea exists for the benefit of one nutcase and his family. Neither will allow capitalism to flourish unimpeded.
North Korea's dependence on selling missiles and who knows what else, nuclear warheads perhaps, for hard cash will eventually create a problem the world will regret. It's not impossible for a New York City or Washington D.C. to be hit. Those are prime targets.
I'm waiting for the bunker buster sale to Iasrael to be consumated. With luck we can add Iran and North Korea to the list which includes Iraq and Libya as nations no longer interested in nuclear weapons. I'm betting that will happen before 2008.
They should also make it perfectly clear.....if a terrorist group nukes anywhere in the US, those two regimes (the last two spokes in the axis of evil) will be first to bear the brunt of a full retaliation.....
I believe so .. but I think we were/are working on one that could bust through even deeper
If I recall correctly, the Dems didn't like that idea
Bttt! Glad to see you commenting, again!
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