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The Congressional Dems cutoff of financial aid to our allies was disgraceful and unforgivable.
1 posted on 05/01/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Chu Gary

Holy smokes! Check this out, and the source!

Porcine aviation, and all that!


92 posted on 05/01/2005 7:32:16 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: aculeus

People seem to forget that, according to the Pentagon Papers as published in the New York Times, John F. Kennedy ordered the assassination of our ally Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam.

He had been a pretty good job of holding the country together and pursuing the war effort. After he was assassinated on JFK's orders it took years to get the Vietnamese government back to where it could take on some of the military burden again.

That information was buried in the middle of the Pentagon Papers, perhaps the single most significant revelation in them. But the Times never singled it out for comment, instead using the release of the papers as another tool to bash President Nixon. The Pentagon Papers didn't actually reveal anything negative against Nixon, only against JFK and LBJ. It was typical lying liberal spin.


95 posted on 05/01/2005 7:45:02 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Travis McGee

considering our previous exchange fm this morning; the above article is stunning - can't believe the slimes printed it.


97 posted on 05/01/2005 7:59:24 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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Teddy Kennedy, burn in hell. Mary Jo was just one of the millions you abandoned.


98 posted on 05/01/2005 8:45:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Chu Gary; Chieftain; ProudVet77

After 35 years of incompetence, the NYT ...........ping.


99 posted on 05/01/2005 8:47:01 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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just in case you didn't see this ping...


102 posted on 05/01/2005 9:04:48 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: aculeus

so now the left is admitting they were wrong and are just saying "oops, we appologize for the inconvenience"?


104 posted on 05/01/2005 9:06:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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"But those changes [in Vietnam] were not inevitable and would not necessarily have occurred had Mikhail Gorbachev not ascended to power in Moscow, and had the Soviet Union and its empire not collapsed."


All Hail ... Oh Conquering Russian Hero!

112 posted on 05/02/2005 2:39:59 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... Proud NRA member)
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To: aculeus
The Congressional Dems cutoff of financial aid to our allies was disgraceful and unforgivable.

In my view, a direct line can be drawn between the US pullout of Vietnam and 9/11. Once small-time despots and the like realized that you didn't need a big military force to defeat the major powers - you just needed to cause enough discomfort to get people to leave, I think you see the beginnings of the modern terrorist movement.

113 posted on 05/02/2005 2:47:04 AM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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CNN and NPR celebrated our defeat all weekend.


114 posted on 05/02/2005 2:48:33 AM PDT by hershey
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bump


115 posted on 05/02/2005 2:48:45 AM PDT by Allan
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To: aculeus

The Vietnamese Communists owe thanks to the media, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Jane Fonda and so on. And to the Clintons, too: even though they weren't known then, they were leftist activists.


119 posted on 05/02/2005 5:09:05 AM PDT by Reader of news
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The Congressional Dems cutoff of financial aid to our allies was disgraceful and unforgivable.

Something Kerry urged during his testimony before Congress. Kerry also predicted only a few thousand would be affected by a Communist takeover.

125 posted on 05/02/2005 7:42:01 AM PDT by kabar
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Bump.


127 posted on 05/02/2005 7:46:51 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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The Vietnam War turned into a political football under Johnson and McNamarra. They had no intention of 'winning' it; rather, they used it for political positioning. And when that backfired and resulted in an even worsening quagmire, Johnson chose not to run for reelection.

Johnson helped created a worsening problem and, partly at his choice and partly due to the shifting mood of the general public, chose to leave office and leave the problem to the next administration.


130 posted on 05/02/2005 8:21:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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We had good reason to fear the USSR and China. 60 million died under Stalin and Mao. More than WWII.

Of course, you would never hear Jane Fonda or the lefties admit that. Communism is good, you know.


137 posted on 05/02/2005 10:10:03 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Why go in the first place? Whatever a win would have looked like, it wouldn’t be worth the loss of all those fine young men. Not only dead, but those wounded and scarred for life.


161 posted on 05/05/2020 7:11:37 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (The Nazis were socialists, and all socialists turn into Nazis.)
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