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To: Smokin' Joe
"How are the State Governments not included in this if it is, as it states, "the Right of the people"?"

Constitutions, state or federal, do not confer rights. They either protect a right or they don't.

The second amendment tells the federal government that they shall not infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. That's all it says.

The states are bound by their own state constitution. In many cases, the state constitution contains wording similar to the second amendment. In North Dakota, your state constitution reads:

"All individuals are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty; acquiring, possessing and protecting property and reputation; pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness; and to keep and bear arms for the defense of their person, family, property, and the state, and for lawful hunting, recreational, and other lawful purposes, which shall not be infringed."

In Illinois it reads:

" Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

That why North Dakota has more favorable laws than Illinois.

187 posted on 05/01/2005 3:00:09 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Ultimately, North Dakota has better laws becuase we would not tolerate otherwise.

When you live somewhere that can kill you 6 months out of the year, just for being outside too long ( a matter of hours, not days), you don't embrace much nonsense.

Unfortunately, as our rural/urban demographics shift, and more people lose sight of this, we, too, are in peril.

188 posted on 05/01/2005 3:11:43 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: robertpaulsen; yall
robertpaulsen misinforms:

The second amendment tells the federal government that they shall not infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. That's all it says. The states are bound by their own state constitution.

Not true: "--- every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding. -- "
Read Article VI for the truth.

190 posted on 05/01/2005 3:59:01 PM PDT by P_A_I
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