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To: P_A_I; robertpaulsen
So both of you are saying that the laws are violating the U.S. Constitution
 
That is exactly what I am saying. To believe anything else is fantasy. The only way you lose your 2nd amendment rights
is pure stupidity.
 
How else would you explain it? The 2nd Amendment has no ifs, ands, or buts. How did you let your politicians convince you otherwise?
 
Seems to me you are defending a lost cause. Weren't you the one who asked about conceal carry? Do you think you lost that right because of the federal government, or do you think perhaps it was because of your local scum-suckers? You lost your rights because you were complacent. Had you thrown a fit and had any organization at all, chances are you would still have the right. There have been countless challenges to the 2nd amendment. Take a look at how many have won and how many have lost. The win column far outweighs the lost.
 
Look, no matter what your argument is, the fact will always boil down to the fact you and your constituents let this happen. If that were not the case, how do you explain other states having the privilege?
 
By your argument, why do we have the privilege and you don't? There is only one explanation. We haven't relinquished our rights, and you have. I believe, if you would actually grow some balls and challenge this, you could regain it. Seems to me it is up to you.
 
 

124 posted on 04/30/2005 9:30:08 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us
"Look, no matter what your argument is, the fact will always boil down to the fact you and your constituents let this happen. If that were not the case, how do you explain other states having the privilege?

This is exactly my point. Concealed carry is decided by each state, not the federal government.

If the second amendment applied to the states, then all states would have to allow concealed carry (or none). The first amendment applies to all states -- all states must allow nude dancing. Correct?

157 posted on 05/01/2005 8:53:55 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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