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1 posted on 04/29/2005 1:00:01 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
Orlando Bloom, Liam Neeson and Jeremy Irons

And I will lay money down that all three of them will be bitching about "Bush's War For Oil".....

I hate Hollywood.

2 posted on 04/29/2005 1:03:55 PM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: missyme

I really don't think that most in the movie audiences are catching on to these liberal messages. They go to a movie to see the story, action, a particular star...not to get their politics. Some that have been seen as political are fairly subtle too, esp. when they place them in such long-ago historical timeframes.


3 posted on 04/29/2005 1:04:28 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: missyme
The Western crusaders are too often dismissed as bloodthirsty and rapacious

Weren't they?

5 posted on 04/29/2005 1:08:20 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: missyme

These morons are propagandists for Al Qaeda and like-minded terrorists. Make the "crusaders" out to be the villains of history (they were not) and let it seem like Muslims then and now are merely concerned to keep evil "crusaders" out of their lands. Let's just forget that it was ISLAM that violently overran much of the known world from 800 to 1600 AD and that the nasty crusaders were merely trying to salvage the Christian holy lands from the Islamic onslaught.


10 posted on 04/29/2005 1:12:01 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: missyme

ok so it's a review....

I will probably still see it in the theatre and then we will see what I think...

movies with supposed Liberal messages don't really seem to affect anything.


11 posted on 04/29/2005 1:12:08 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (MikeinIraq in 2020!!)
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To: missyme
According to the (Catholic Encyclopedia Crusades are) : Expeditions undertaken, in fulfilment of a solemn vow, to deliver the Holy Places from Mohammedan tyranny.
14 posted on 04/29/2005 1:12:49 PM PDT by sanchez810
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To: missyme
The Western crusaders are too often dismissed as bloodthirsty and rapacious

Well, duh. The Western Crusaders of 1205 were indeed as bloodthirsty and rapacious as the Wahabists of 2005. The difference is, obviously, that Western Civilization (mostly) got over it.

18 posted on 04/29/2005 1:14:11 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: missyme
Misleading Headline Alert

There is nothing about Orlando Bloom in the text. Why am that?

19 posted on 04/29/2005 1:14:33 PM PDT by muleskinner
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Hopefully, if nothing else, this film will have some good archery scenes. I'm waiting for peer (freeper) review, though!


21 posted on 04/29/2005 1:15:19 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: missyme

Everyone needs to severely chill out, so I can rant.

If I see one my "Our G_d" bumper stickers I think i will scream. I thought there was only one G_d. Makes the asshat driving the car look like a polytheist not a Christian. Dumb DUMB people treating religion like a sporting event. did I mention they are DUMB.


34 posted on 04/29/2005 1:20:20 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: missyme
Grafting PC politics onto such an old story surely is weird. The Crusades were far more complicated than most seem to believe--Paul Johnson has called this the most mis-taught era of history--and the problem seems to be that it's hard to isolate one crusade or one limited series of events as indicative of the whole.

The Christians of the Crusades are not the Christians of modern times. Unfortunately, the most visible and vocal Islamists today are as bad or worse than the Muslims in this era. Sorry for the naysayers on this thread, but that's the truth. Trying to buff up the present-day face of Islam by saying "Oh YEAH, well hundreds of years ago look what you Christians did!" is, uh, lame.

43 posted on 04/29/2005 1:23:39 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: missyme
Hollywood and it's people and products are nothing more than hollow shells... void of true content or truth...

They are but a metaphor of the stage set.. fake walls, doors and windows... not real but 2 dimensional...
44 posted on 04/29/2005 1:24:08 PM PDT by Barney59 (Now there's a man with an open mind - you can feel the breeze from here!)
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To: missyme
Liam Neeson...gross.

I will never look at him the same again since he played that Kinsey pervert.

53 posted on 04/29/2005 1:28:16 PM PDT by what's up
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To: missyme
The thing not addressed here so far is the total fiction at the core of this movie. Not just the characters, but the whole idea of a "Good Christian" and "Good Muslim" coalition working together, a kind of UN of the period. THAT to be is the revisionist BS we should all be against. Somehow the apologists for this haven't mentioned this.

After the DaVinci Code, I guess secret societies are all the rage.

67 posted on 04/29/2005 1:35:29 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: missyme

Yay!! :-)


76 posted on 04/29/2005 1:39:53 PM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: missyme
Let's not forget Orlando Bloom needed a chest wig to make him look more manly!


79 posted on 04/29/2005 1:42:48 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: missyme
>and religion itself (both Christianity and Islam) is reduced to little more than a source of fanaticism

Did the movie "Troy"
even mention the Greek gods
or that religion?!

159 posted on 04/29/2005 2:37:24 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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