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Analysis of President Bush's Press Conference
ABP ^ | 4/28/05 | ABP

Posted on 04/28/2005 7:14:14 PM PDT by crushkerry

On Social Security the President was fabulous. We have been saying for months that the President needed to highlight the VOLUNTARY nature of personal accounts, and he did so tonight. You could tell the word "voluntary" will be preceding "personal savings account" in the future. He also did a great job of allaying the fears of those who may be uneasy about investing in the market and highlighting the fact that you could invest in savings bonds. If people stuck around to the end they heard a great justification for PRA's when one spouse dies before retiring - the ability to pass it on rather than getting nothing from the SS system.

As to the "new" proposal of means testing future benefits it was a good political move. The Democrats may now have to face questions about why they're standing in the way of something that will assure the poor an income above the poverty level from social security. As political ju-jitsu goes it was pretty good. However, you can bet the Dems will be screaming about "cuts" in social security and saying "What about the middle class". When they do - turn it around and say "OK, what about the middle class when we do nothing and their benefits go down 27% and don't even have a PRA to help them out?".

As far as the substance of means testing goes I'm generally in favor of it, especially with regard to entitlements. I'm aware of valid criticisms that ask why should someone be "punished" for being successful. But here, the system is going bankrupt and it may be the 'least worst" option that has a realistic chance to get somewhere.

But the best thing is that by means testing social security you get away from a mentality of a "universal entitlement". Once you put a dent in the fact that someone is "automatically" entitled to a certain benefit level, then you undermine support for the program.

To me, that's a good first step. The more you can do to get people away from a government "entitlement" line of thinking, and make them realize that they are responsible for their own retirement security I'm for it. This means testing idea won't solve that problem right away but it's a start. Plus, people of my generation don't think they're getting social security anyway, and are used to saving for retirement outside the system so it's no big deal. It will be funny to watch the Democrats defend Bill Gates getting the same social security benefits as a guy who worked in a manufacturing plant for 40 years.

On other issues - the pitch for the energy bill was OK. Expect the press to jump on the fact that he admitted that he can't do anything about gas prices immediately. People like us know that but expect the left to be talking about his desire to pass an energy bill as a reward to his "oil buddies".

The discussion about North Korea was more of the same, and he again laid out a great justification of liberating Iraq.

Surprisingly, the President had kid gloves when it came to criticizing Democrats on his judicial appointments, even disavowing the argument that Democratic opposition to judges was based on hostility to religious people. I don't know how some of the people who attended "Justice Sunday" are going to feel about it, but I would imagine the President didn't want to go down that road if the Senate is going to invoke the "Constitutional option" anyway and he didn't want the Dems to have ammuntion to accuse him of aligning with the "Jesus Freaks".

You could tell how passionate he was when talking about the No Child Left Behind law, and his disdain for those teachers unions who don't like to be tested. While we admire the President's commitment to education, this was a bad law from the start. It spent way too much money on what has been a rat hole for funds, and he didn't even get school vouchers out of it. The law, along with all the money being spent on it, are best left by the wayside.

Finally, the negative tone of the questions was pretty bad, though not surprising. Perhaps the worst one was the guy from the LA Times wanting him to take blame for the partisan atmosphere in Washington. WTF?!!! I don't see the President comparing his opponents to Hitler or pretending to assassinate them.

Since I was watching on Fox News, I didn't know till just now that the networks cut off the President in mid-sentence to show Paris Hilton's Simple Life, Donald Trump's The Apprentice and Survivor. Think about that for a second. I love football, but after the "Heidi Game" the rule is that you can't cut off NFL games till they're over no matter how big of a blowout the game is. Yet they have no problem cutting off the President. I wonder if they'd have done that to Bill Clinton.

Bottom line is that the President did a good job tonight, but how many watched. We hope that some actions follow the words.


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1 posted on 04/28/2005 7:14:15 PM PDT by crushkerry
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To: Grampa Dave; LincolnLover; jmstein7; backinthefold; .cnI redruM; OXENinFLA; Badeye; K1avg; ...

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2 posted on 04/28/2005 7:14:28 PM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.anklebitingpundits.com for great original conservative commentary)
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To: crushkerry

I know I now have a better understanding of his PLAN. Let us not forget it is not a done deal yet, since the SCUMBAG LIBERALS will surely obstruct him. He needs to fight hard, and put the cockroach Dems in the limelight when they obstruct his plans. The stinking Dems do not want to let go of OUR MONEY. Bush is effectively trying to keep SOME OF IT out of Washington's hands, in our control.


3 posted on 04/28/2005 7:18:56 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: crushkerry

President Bush is showing his socialist bent, again.
I don't like it.


4 posted on 04/28/2005 7:20:17 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: crushkerry

Not to put too fine a point on it,but, what about the illegal immigration and borders? All these points he touched on wont mean squat with another 9-11 or being swamped by illegals.


5 posted on 04/28/2005 7:21:18 PM PDT by Adrastus (If you don't like my attitude, talk to someone else.)
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To: crushkerry

He did pretty good with Soc Security, but since he was asked about the judiciary, he should have had more ammo ready to use.

Instead of just saying he opposes judges legislating from the bench, he (and all on our side) needs to start reeling off a list of the most outrageous examples of judges acting like kings and imposing for the Left what would be or already has been rejected by the people.


6 posted on 04/28/2005 7:23:17 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: crushkerry
Someone mentioned "wobbly" Republicans are the ones that could nix the reform for SS. Maybe someone can explain how bills pass? If the Republicans hold the majority in the Senate, they can pass anything they want, correct? Unless enough Reps ally with the Democrats to defeat a bill? Or is it more complex than that?

The President mentioned it would be the option of the social security contributor to where they invest. They can have stocks or bonds. What about just plain annuities? Or Term Deposits? My concern is how 401Ks function. My wife's company only offered 8 mutual fund choices. 2 were interest bearing, and the other six were stock market funds. Would contributors have more flexibility than that? I assume they could just designate a financial institution as to where their money will go and then sort their investments with the bank?
7 posted on 04/28/2005 7:23:46 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: crushkerry

Judged on style, he was pretty good: animated, prickly when misrepresented, funny and well-studied.


8 posted on 04/28/2005 7:24:33 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: sarasmom

I noticed that too. Canada's Pension Plan is more what the President is suggesting. Our system is more of a welfare system. The lowest amount is $250 and highest is $750 per month. A person can have worked one day in their entire life and still get $250.0. And then, since they will be poor on retirement get a supplement. The most anyone would ever get is $750, even if they grossed $100,000 per year


9 posted on 04/28/2005 7:26:37 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: Lord Nelson

It will likely follow the lead of the Thrift Savings Plan (the 401K type plan for federal employees). They have a choice of 5 broad based index funds to choose from. Social Security will likely do the same thing. The main reason is that the govt. isn't going to want people taking too much risk, and they have to be broad based to keep the fees down.


10 posted on 04/28/2005 7:27:39 PM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.anklebitingpundits.com for great original conservative commentary)
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To: EagleUSA

Funny how Democrats who would be the first to attack pyramid schemes, won't dismantle this one - I guess because they built this one.


11 posted on 04/28/2005 7:27:42 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: crushkerry

I also heard some murmering about allowing SS funds to be used to pay down federal guaranteed student loans?


12 posted on 04/28/2005 7:29:49 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: Lord Nelson
I have a different take. I feel sold out as an economic conservative that he thinks everyone should have the same amount of money, or more when they retire. I personally would have rather him tell the truth about the whole thing. It is bankrupt and dying.

My main fear is MEANS TESTING WITHOUT PERSONAL SAVING ACCOUNT. Look for the dems to push this.

13 posted on 04/28/2005 7:33:25 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Lord Nelson

Funny how Democrats who would be the first to attack pyramid schemes, won't dismantle this one - I guess because they built this one.
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I know I won't see it in my lifetime, but the system (IMHO) will be eventually dismantled and phased-out. Why does the government have to run a welfare program WITH YOUR MONEY? It is just big-government socialism - installed by FDR, our great father of socialism. He wanted the socialist control, and so do our socialists of today. But it is not needed. The government in Washington has proven that it cannot manage OUR MONEY at all -- they are the last place any sane person would want to "save money" (chuckle) -- we just have a government that is drunk on our money and wants to stay drunk!!!


14 posted on 04/28/2005 7:47:58 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: sarasmom
President Bush is showing his socialist bent, again.
I don't like it.

I didn't care for it either but then I realized that if personal accounts exist this will serve to drive people out of the system since they will see that they will be even less likely to get anything from it.  I think crushkerry is implying this.

15 posted on 04/28/2005 8:17:47 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: Lord Nelson
That works out to what US $500 / month.

How can anyone live on that?

Boy there goes the Great Welfare State theory. I feel sorry for you blokes up there.
16 posted on 04/28/2005 9:12:35 PM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: crushkerry
Bottom line is that the President did a good job tonight...

"Good job" OR "snow-job"?

NO mention of the illegal invasion through the gaping hole called the "MEXICAN BORDER"??

No, Ill NOT give Dubya a "good job" score.

Try a "D" for "Disingenuous Drivel."

17 posted on 04/28/2005 9:18:10 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: sarasmom
Right.

Saving Social Security is Socialist. Why should the poor working slobs get any money for Retirement. It was already stolen by the fat cats and Heqq if they will get it back.

You make us all look bad.

Social Security has always been a welfare program. But it is far to popular to do away with it. Thus it must be fixed. I would think a rich guy like you would understand the value of investing money. But then I would be forgetting that you only care about the Rich and to Heqq with the poor. Let them die a slow painful death of starvation or disease. Far be it any of my taxes go to help them out.

The rest of us realize that if you don't treat the bottom 90% with at least some decency sooner or latter they will rebel and take all the top 10% has. They will then put them in prison. A La the Robber Barons and IBM.
18 posted on 04/28/2005 9:21:19 PM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: gas_dr
It was rather confusing what he was saying. First he mentioned that social security will be broke 2027. The truth is it is already broke because the fund is filled with IOUs - otherwise more government debt. But I believe he did clarify later by saying that would be the date that incoming contributions will be dwarfed by outgoing payments. That's when it starts to cost the government to have pensioners. Although it will really cost before then since governments now use social security money to meet current expenditures. So now the US government lives off of 12% of every paycheque (less current payments) in addition to regular income tax.
19 posted on 04/28/2005 9:34:54 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: EagleUSA
As an outsider I could never understand why FDR is so worshiped. He allowed his love for the Soviet Union to cause his own cabinet to be infiltrated by communists. He began Keynes grand experiment of irresponsible financial accountability as the new economics of government.
20 posted on 04/28/2005 9:37:16 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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