Posted on 04/27/2005 6:10:42 PM PDT by Pyro7480
New Pope Benedict XVI has questionable past
From: Nelson Marans, Silver Spring
With the present pope's hometown in the heartland of Bavaria, the birthplace of the Nazi movement, there was little doubt that the overwhelming majority of the citizens were either Nazis or ready to follow the party line. There apparently was little opposition to the tactics of the Nazi Party from the residents of the town until they felt that their religion was being threatened by some of the pagan customs of the Third Reich. Certainly, despite his youth, the current pope was neutral when it came to the murderous treatment of the Jewish population of his hometown, without any departure from being a supporter of the Third Reich until it was obvious that the Nazi regime had collapsed militarily. His current objections to the Second Vatican Council, including its rapprochement with Jewish leaders and the apology for past transgressions against not only Judaism but other religions, do not speak well for the future of ecumenical relations with the other major religions of the world.
Whether he will grow in tolerance at his advanced age is open to question. His comments prior to his succession do not indicate any flexibility in his attitudes, with the proposed sainthood of Catholics who have supported the Roman Catholic Church wholeheartedly while having a less than admirable record toward other religions, including King Ferdinand, Queen Isabella, Popes Pius IX and XII and Catherine Anne Emmerich.
Examiner: By your logic, everyone who lived in the former Soviet Block was a communist. Obviously that's not true considering Pope John Paul II. Couldn't the same be true for the new pope?
I did not say that everyone was a Nazi in the pope's hometown, but Bavaria was the heartland of the Nazi Movement as far back as the Beer Hall putsch of 1923 and was key in electing Hitler to power in 1933. The story I cited noted there was no opposition to the removal of Jews to concentration camps in the pope's birthplace and Kristallnacht. Only when the church was attacked was there any vocal resistance.
Certainly not all Germans were Nazis, nor were all Russians communists, but certainly the level of tolerance for the Nazi seizure of power was greatest in Bavaria among the German states.
So should Southerners be prevented from holding national public office? After all, we Rebels were, well, Rebels.
Hey, I'm Dutch...
Does that make me a speed skater?
The most insidious example of anti-Pope Benedict XVI material I have seen so far...
How does he pronounce his last name? Is it zvee or zvie?
Just one example -- Bavaria didn't like the Weimar government because it was too far left for a very conservative state. But they didn't like Hitler either -- the Beer Hall Putsch was crushed by the Bavarian police, Hitler was arrested and did time in Landsberg prison. This is support?
I don't have time to point out all the outright lies in here. They can't be errors, because nobody is that stupid. Just character assassination "by any means necessary."
Saint Paul killed Christians, before he saw the Light! Got to go pretty far to beat that!
...and lets not forget that our first pope denied Christ 3 times. The liberals are scared of this one.
The basic premise of Bavaria being particularly Nazi is false. Birthplace of the Nazi party, yes, particularly Nazi, no.
Consider the following from the History Channel (http://www.historystudystop.co.uk/php/displayarticle.php?article=66&topic=meu):
The Nazis won a higher share of the vote in Protestant, rather than Catholic, areas. In July 1932 the Nazi share of the vote was indeed twice as high in Protestant areas as in Catholic. The Catholic Centre party regularly gained 11-12 per cent of the vote and did not lose support to the Nazis. This is not to say that Hitler and the Nazis received no support from Catholics, but this support came in special circumstances. In Silesia, for instance, where there were strong nationalist grievances against neighbouring Poland, many Catholics did vote Nazi.
This is a mail-in op-ed written by some jaded moron.
Memo to Nelson Maroon from...
Golda Meir, Israel's Minister of Foreign Affairs: In 1958, at the death of Pope Pius XII, she delivered a eulogy on behalf of the nation of Israel to the United Nations: “We share the grief of the world over the death of His Holiness Pius XII. During a generation of wars and dissensions, he affirmed the high ideals of peace and compassion. During the 10 years of Nazi terror, when our people went through the horrors of martyrdom, the Pope raised his voice to condemn the persecutors and to commiserate with their victims. The life of our time has been enriched by a voice which expressed the great moral truths above the tumults of daily conflicts. We grieve over the loss of a great defender of peace.”
Pinchas Lapide (Israeli diplomat and scholar) His review of Pius XII's wartime activities: “The Catholic Church, under the pontificate of Pius XII, was instrumental in saving the lives of as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands.” He went on to add that this “figure far exceeds those saved by all other Churches and rescue organizations combined.” After recounting statements of appreciation from a variety of preeminent Jewish spokespersons, he noted. “No Pope in history has been thanked more heartily by Jews.”
Jeno Levai (Jewish scholar at the Eichmann War Crimes Trial in 1961) "Bishops of the Catholic Church intervened again and again on the instructions of the Pope.” In 1968, he wrote that “the one person (Pius XII) who did more than anyone else to halt the dreadful crime and alleviate its consequences, is today made the scapegoat for the failures of others.” In “The Secret War Against the Jews” in 1994, Jewish writers John Loftus and Mark Aarons write that “Pope Pius XII probably rescued more Jews than all the Allies combined.”
The Nazi party was born in Munich. They let just ANY kind of riff-raff into Munich . .. or at least they can't keep them out. Remember that Hitler was an Austrian who had fled his native land to avoid the draft . . .
Nor do they care much about Teddy the Swimmer, and innumerable other lefties with questionable pasts. Face it, the queers and Commie sympathizers have pulled out all the stops of slander against this very decent man!
O fer cryin' out loud, not this BS again. How desperate ARE these people? And how long will their tantrums last? Sheeeesh
I submit to youse guys that 30 minutes of Joyce Meyer is worth more than all of your extra-Biblical teachings. No way I'd ever counsel anyone that the CC is a better way than a Baptist or Pentecostal one. Benedict wanted unity, so I have a suggestion for Catholics. We won't join you--you join us.
Live by your own tagline, and verify what you repeat before you post it.
The DC examiner is a local community paper that, to fill up its readers mail section, will usually print every kook who sends them an message.
Readership, maybe three or four thousand
I'd say the readership is more than that, given the fact it's hard for someone to find a copy after 8:15 at the Metro station I board the train at.
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