I think we just witnessed the REAL tipping point last week thanks to Voinovich.
I think Republicans heard the outrage and they are finally going to act on it. This is a battle to the death, and whoever loses this fight is going to go down in flames in the 2006 elections. If the Democrats don't find a way to stop Bush from putting his people at the Appellate level and then on the Supreme Court, they are going to get pulverized by the Move On gang when they withdraw their money and support. The current Dems thought they could use the radicals for their money, while giving them only some of what they want.
But this battle is not about just judges and majorities and power, but about the only two issues that the radical left cares about: Abortion and the Environment. The two issues where they have NEVER won on in Congress, but only through Judicial Activism. If they lose the Courts, they lose everything.
So if (and when) the Dems lose this fight; Move On, Soros and all the other Money sources are not going to support anyone but Hillary, and who Hillary wants them to support. That means she will be the effective head of the Democratic Party.
When Frist pulls the trigger, look for some to call for Harry Reid's head in favor of Hillary. That would give her a platform for the next 3 years by which to campaign for President. Reid will be blamed for over-reaching instead of finding the compromise he is so desperately searching for right now.
Hillary wants her side to lose, because this will effectively wipe out any opposition to her within her party. Frist and the boys understand that if they LOSE this fight, the same thing is still going to happen, but to OUR side instead. If we lose, the money is going to disappear, and we will lose our majority, and send the spineless jerks in our party home.
I think we just witnessed a democratic meltdown. Not even with all their coordinated media attacks are they able to prevent this. They counted on Republicans wimping out, and if Frist and the boys can one time; just this one damn time, act like winners, we can shove this vote right up the Democrat's ass and make them like it.
Because if we fail, the Republican Party is over.
Excellent points, PD..and if I might add..I thinka lot of the pressure is coming from within the GOP caucus itself..Nearly 25% were elected in the last two campaigns...2002 and 2004..and liek Thune..they fought the race ON these issues..and they won..I head Thune, Vitter, and Coleman in the Senate last week...they do NOT want to compromise..they want to govern..
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Tall soldier: Fight against that? No, we will run, and we will live.
William: Ay, fight and you may die, run and you'll live. At least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom.
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If the betrayal of Voinovich resulted in an unintended consequence or a good thing happening from a bad, so be it. (Although it was still a heinous thing to do.) Sometimes conservatives aren't vocal enough, we need to get better with that overall as a group.
I don't know if you saw the Justice Sunday telecast or not, but it was powerful. Those ministers stood up there and said what OUR congresscritters ought to be saying. Frist spoke well too, during that program. And when Bishop Jackson said that he guarantees many black Americans are going to stand up together and see America returned to it's righteous foundations, I could hear a nation-wide soiling of undergarments by the Dems. Big applause was given to all the speakers.
Your point about Hillary is interesting, we will have to watch to see what she does. And what the party does with her.
ROTFLMAO. Touche'
So they will roll over on the next few judges for now so that we don't go nuclear, because they are going to lose in the short term no matter what. They will then proceed to work like dogs to peel off RINO support for the measure in the future through the media lapdogs. Also, by letting a few through they will appear reasonable and better able to stop SCOTUS nominees in the future.
The Republicans should ram through rule change and end the practice of filibustering judges RIGHT NOW while they have the votes. They should not wait for events to lose this chance to secure this legacy for Bush.
Thanks, that was a very interesting read..P'Dog.