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To: Fred Nerks

Interesting post Fred, I hadn't seen it before -

a little digging turned up this -http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/newsletter/2002/jul26.html

This link from it might interest you since it much more recent -

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/jewish/1772-jewsinislam.html


306 posted on 05/01/2005 5:40:01 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS

What's this? A brochure extolling the benefits of migrating to an islamic country?


"They are forbidden to build new churches, chapels, or monasteries in any Muslim land. We should destroy everything that is of new construction in every place, such as Cairo, for instance, founded under the Muslim religion, for it is said in a tradition of Umar: 'No church shall be built in Islam.' They shall no longer be permitted to repair the parts of these [post-Islamic] buildings which are in ruins. However, the old buildings [of pre-Islamic times] which are found in a land whose population had embraced Islam need not be destroyed. They shall not, however, be enlarged by means of repairs or otherwise. In case the tolerated peoples [Jews, Christians, etc.] act contrary to these provisions we will be obliged to destroy everything that has been added to the original size of the building. [Only pre-Islamic churches and synagogues may be repaired; new ones must be torn down.]

"Entrance into Muslim territory by infidels of foreign lands under the pact guaranteeing protection to the tolerated peoples is permitted only for the time necessary to settle their business affairs. If they exceed this period, their safe-conduct having expired, they will be put to death or be subject to the payment of the head-tax.[Jews and Christians of foreign lands must pay a special head-tax if they wish to remain permanently in Muslim lands.] As to those with whom the ruler may have signed treaties, and with whom he, for whatever motive, may have granted a temporary truce, they form only the smallest fraction. But they, too, must not pass the fixed limit of more than four months [without paying the tax], particularly if this occurs at a time when Islam is prosperous and flourishing. The Most-High has said [Qu'ran 2: 2341: 'They should wait four months,' and he has again said [47:37]: 'Do not show any cowardice, and do not at all invite the unbelievers to a peace when you have the upper-hand and may God be with you.'


308 posted on 05/01/2005 6:21:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: RS

fascinating site, so much info, can't thank you enough:


Submitting to Islam—or Dying
Ceasefires and peace talks bow to greater powers in Sudan.
By Jeff M. Sellers | posted 10/08/2003


CHATYOUT NYDANG is the leader of a Muslim militia that helps the Sudanese government wipe out Christians in southern Sudan. In July relief-and-development agency director Dennis E. Bennett spoke with an elderly southern Sudanese man in the eastern Upper Nile about life in territory that Nydang patrols.

"Routinely, anyone Chatyout's men catch walking to church is beaten and told to convert to Islam, or next time they'll be beaten harder or killed," the approximately 65-year-old Nuer tribesman, Jon Giang-giang, told Bennett.

After finding a Nuer Bible in his backpack, Nydang's men recently beat Giang-giang until he was unconscious. Bennett, executive director of Servant's Heart, says they left Giang-giang in a pit for more than two days.

Little information about abuses in the Longochok area of the eastern Upper Nile surfaced until Servant's Heart began working there five years ago. Until two years ago, before government-allied forces lost ground to southern troops, Nydang's men would ask women they encountered on isolated roads one question—are you Christian or Muslim?

"If she answered 'Muslim,' she was set free," Bennett says. "If she answered 'Christian,' she was gang-raped by 10 to 20 soldiers. Then they would cut off her breasts to leave her to bleed to death, as an example to others that this is what will happen to you unless you convert to Islam."

The government of Sudan uses such local militias in its campaign to wipe out Christians and to secure their oil-rich lands in southern Sudan. It has begun pumping oil from a well in the eastern Upper Nile.

Two decades of civil war between Sudan's Muslim north and its Christian and animist south have left 2 million people dead. Government forces regularly target civilian villages and churches.

Sudan signed a ceasefire agreement with the southern Sudan People's Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) in October 2002. The government has violated it with major military offensives in the oil-rich Upper Nile since December 31.

"Attacks have continued unabated in both eastern and western Upper Nile despite the signing of a second and supposedly more comprehensive [ceasefire] in February 2003," says Richard Chilvers of Surrey, U.K.–based Christian Solidarity Worldwide.

The October 2002 Sudan Peace Act requires the Bush administration to help monitor ceasefires and sanction violations of them. Bennett says such U.S. action has been tragically lacking.


309 posted on 05/01/2005 6:34:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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