"I wouldn't use muslims in the military as a talking point. Not with the islamic slime who fragged his officers so recently making the news with his conviction. "
... and the list of the religion or ethnicity of the slime that fragged their fellows in 'Nam is where ?
"And it's about time Jews stopped tolerating people who would gladly see them dead."
Yaeh, Don't you just hate those Jews who won't learn to hate a person because of their religion... when will they learn to be more like the fanatic Islamists ?
Terrorism: Growing Wahhabe Influence in the US: (snip)
"At the present time, Shia and other non-Wahhabi Muslim community leaders estimate that 80 percent of American mosques are under Wahhabi control. This does not mean 80 percent of American Muslims support Wahhabism, although the main Wahhabi ideological agency in America, the so-called Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has claimed that some 70 percent of American Muslims want Wahhabi teaching in their mosques.1This is a claim we consider unfounded.
Rather, Wahhabi control over mosques means control of property, buildings, appointment of imams, training of imams, content of preaching — including faxing of Friday sermons from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia — and of literature distributed in mosques and mosque bookstores, notices on bulletin boards, and organizational solicitation. Similar influence extends to prison and military chaplaincies, Islamic elementary and secondary schools (academies), college campus activity, endowment of academic chairs and programs in Middle East studies, and most notoriously, charities ostensibly helping Muslims abroad, many of which have been linked to or designated as sponsors of terrorism.
The main organizations that have carried out this campaign are the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), which originated in the Muslim Students' Association of the U.S. and Canada (MSA), and CAIR. Support activities have been provided by the American Muslim Council (AMC), the American Muslim Alliance (AMA), the Muslim American Society (MAS), the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences, its sister body the International Institute of Islamic Thought, and a number of related groups that I have called "the Wahhabi lobby." ISNA operates at least 324 mosques in the U.S. through the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT). These groups operate as an interlocking directorate.
Both ISNA and CAIR, in particular, maintain open and close relations with the Saudi government — a unique situation, in that no other foreign government directly uses religion as a cover for its political activities in the U.S. For example, notwithstanding support by the American Jewish community for the state of Israel, the government of Israel does not intervene in synagogue life or the activities of rabbinical or related religious bodies in America.
According to saudiembassy.net, the official website of the Saudi government, CAIR received $250,000 from the Jeddah-based Islamic Development Bank, an official Saudi financial institution, in 1999, for the purchase of land in Washington, D.C., to construct a headquarters facility.2
In a particularly disturbing case, the Islamic Development Bank also granted US$295,000 to the Masjid Bilal Islamic Center, for the construction of the Bilal Islamic Primary and Secondary School in California, in 1999.3 Hassan Akbar, an American Muslim presently charged with a fatal attack on his fellow soldiers in Kuwait during the Iraq intervention, was affiliated with this institution.
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8715
>... and the list of the religion or ethnicity of the slime that fragged their fellows in 'Nam is where ?<
And the relevance of dragging the old liberal standard canard of anything to do with Viet Nam into this is what?
Hasan Akbar's motives for the brutal hand grenade murders were demonstrably intertwined with his Muslim faith and conflicted feelings about possibly fighting other Muslims on the field of battle, feelings he allowed to control and overpower his reason and better judgment. At least according to his own statements...
>"And it's about time Jews stopped tolerating people who would gladly see them dead."
Yeah, Don't you just hate those Jews who won't learn to hate a person because of their religion... when will they learn to be more like the fanatic Islamists ?<
This is not an unexpected knee-jerk response from one of the few people I've come into contact with who apparently has a "snooze" button for his brain. Where in any forensic debate class were you ever taught that you win a discussion or an argument if you take someone else's words and twist them to effect a slanted meaning which suits your own purposes?
Moreover, where is it written that we as Americans (or the Israeli Jews for that matter) have to suffer tolerance of anyone their unfettered religious practices - if those practices have as their eventual goal the murder of our people, the abridging of our freedoms, or the destruction of our way of life?
The difference between Jews, Americans and militant Islamists? They hate all Jews unreservedly, and any Americans who support Israel or Jews in general. Concurrent with that hatred, they want to murder, destroy, and take over. We, on the other hand, do not necessarily hate them all, so much as we abhor the threat of death and violence which seems to inexorably follow in their wake. Concurrent with the identification of that threat, we are willing to kill all of them who pose such a threat.
Stated differently, in the words of a famous Israeli: "We may someday forgive you for killing our sons, but we will never forgive you for making us have to kill yours!"
You seem to be tone deaf (about the meaning of people's words), and "motive blind" (as to what it is that moves them). Frankly, I would not trust your judgment in a foxhole to have anybody's back.
A.A.C.
Sorry, twisting the words of someone who disagrees with you so that they are unrecognizable is a poor debating point and hardly advances your argument (which is weak enough). Come RS, you have become rusty. You are not even trying not to sound like typical leftist DU'er.
Love this border thread..its like old times!