"...but the later, nasty ones, which abrogate the nice ones, have to be disregarded, removed, stripped out of the koran."
Oops, watch it... a historian knows the later ones are NOT part of the Koran - thats a rookie mistake.
But at least, as someone interested in it from a historical perspective, you seem to agree that the nasty bits come later, a minimum of 150 years later...
And there I was thinking everyone knew that the nasty bits came later because in the beginning, the 'prophet' had to behave himself or get thrown out of town. He didn't start with the stand-over tactics until he had some followers and the contents of a few camel caravans under his belt. But I guess you don't know that because you haven't read the biography. I have been asking you why not for a very long time, so I don't expect an answer now. Methinks it's maybe against your religion to read a biography written by a Christian. Too bad. It would certainly provide you with a wider perspective, particularly as the book, The Life of Muhammad, is based upon ancient arabic and greek sources, extensively quoted in the footnotes.
So where are we now? The 'bad bits' aren't part of the koran? Someone put them in there 150 years later? Goodness me, what a mess! You mean Osama didn't know? He made a mistake? Those 3,000 people didn't need to die to pay the price for what the Great Shaytan supposedly did to the muslims ( I still haven't figured out what that was ) something to do with filthy kuffar infidels setting foot on the holy lands of islam, wasn't it?
The islam you and I are talking about must be two totally different 'religions' ... no wonder the muslims are confused, pray do tell me, how is a poor muslim to tell which one he/she belongs to?
And now we have 'militant' clerics! A good koran, a bad koran, and moderate and militant clerics. It's really more than one mind can handle. Btw, I heard from my friends up North, to whom I posed the question of same-sex marriage in Oz. No, they are NOT legal. Not recognized. So the imam apparently did lie. (But that's OK, because he was 'militant' and what else would one expect from a militant cleric' but lies. )
You take the cake. And the icing. Hey, you might as well take the cake-tray!
My advice to you hasn't changed. Read the Biography of the 'prophet' and have a nice day.