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To: HAL9000
The USSR and retrospective looks at its demise are very strange. We must remember that it's been 14 years since the whole enterprise collapsed. For young people (late 20s and early 30s) this era is tied to the nostalgia of their childhood. Also, the crimes of the regime are forgotten and not emphasized. The soviets never got the nazi treatment. And to the extent that they do, excesses are blamed on Stalin or other individuals.

In Russia, in particular, the nostalgia is strong because of national pride. Russia's early history was that of an Asian hick backwater. With Peter the Great, they became a European power, albeit a minor one. With Catherine, they became prominent and rose to be a major force in the never-ending series of European wars. But they lost quite a few of them.

Then, after World War II, they were a superpower -- feared and hated. The nostalgia leads to a "but at least" problem. "Well, we had to wait in line for rotten bread, but at least we didn't have to worry about paying for the doctor." The real problems that Russia suffers from now are compared against a sanitized version of the past. But the truth is, it's really more about national pride. They don't have it now, and they wish they did.

45 posted on 04/25/2005 10:02:56 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "lol, Good one AD."--gopwinsin04; "Hey, AmishDude, you are right!"-FairOpinion)
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To: AmishDude
Russia's early history was that of an Asian hick backwater.

Actually, Kieven Russ and the surviving principalities of Novograd, Moscovwy, Pskov and Vladimer (after the state was dismembered by the Mongols, Poles, Lithuanians, Teutonics and Swedes) were all very much in Europe. Only with Novograd's colonies into Siberia, which became Moscowy's after Novograd was conquered, did the Russ venture into Asia.

As for a backwater, hardly. Up until the Mongol invasions, they were one of the most powerful states in Europe, while England, France, Spain, Germany and Italy were hundreds of small baronies fighting for power.

51 posted on 04/25/2005 10:30:28 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: AmishDude
With Peter the Great, they became a European power, albeit a minor one.

Actually, they were already a European power before Peter, who made them into a major power with his defeat of the Swedes and Poles and Turks. Catherin even conquered Berlin before her death and her idjit son (who hated her) Peter III gave it all back to Fredrick (at that time) the Not-So-Great.

52 posted on 04/25/2005 10:32:18 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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