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To: elbucko

You only need to read the first sentence of any post by Mr. Elbucko to realize how totally foolish he is. I never objected to his objection to "states' rights." I simply suggested that the 10th Amendment refers to powers of the states and that one might infer from it the concept of a state having "rights."

Mr. Elbucko, however, insists on playing semantical games because, apparently, one of his sharp former social studies teachers impressed on him the idea that only individuals have "rights." This is a great philosophical point, but one that has no relevance at all to the original discussion. And, in fact, the phrase "a state's right" is understood by most intellegent people to mean "a state's legitimate power."

Finally, we get to Dr. Elbucko's big beef--the 14th Amendment, which simple language has been properly interpreted as meaning that if you're born in the USA you have a right to US citizenship. It's an idea that most Americans believe to be just, given our nation's history and tradition as being a light of freedom for the world.

All I can say about Mr. Elproducto's complaint is that while we're all sorry about his being dumped by his Hispanic girlfriend last year, this is no reason for him to continue on this anti-"ferner" tyrade of his.


95 posted on 04/26/2005 11:23:56 AM PDT by zook
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To: zook
Mr. Elbucko, however, insists on playing semantical games..

Finally, we get to Dr. Elbucko's..

Mr. Elproducto's

Why don't you grow up and use the proper tense in your replies instead of this childish gibberish.

Finally, we get to Dr. Elbucko's big beef--the 14th Amendment, which simple language has been properly interpreted [?] as meaning that if you're born in the USA you have a right [?] to US citizenship. It's an idea that most Americans believe to be just, given our nation's history and tradition as being a light of freedom for the world.

No, you're wrong, as usual. Most Americans do not belive the 14th Amendment empowers those immigrants, who are ILLEGALLY within the borders of the United States, to birth their children there and confer citizenship upon the issue.

No other country in the world allows such a situation. The child is the nationality of the parents. If the parents have immigrated legally, citizenship is not an open issue until the child is 18. Or, in other words, go drop your kids in Mexico, claim that they are Mexican citizens that empowers you, the parents, with permanent visa to remain in Mexico and see how far you get. Enjoy the Mexican jail, Gringo!

98 posted on 04/26/2005 11:56:52 AM PDT by elbucko (Repeal the 18th. Amendment.)
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