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To: Teacher317

"Read that again. You honestly consider "life-time lock-down" to be a valid, viable medical prescription for a malady, rather than a knee-jerk emotional response to a scary situation? That's troubling, and probably a sign that you'll probably not "get" what I'm trying to communicate. I hope others do, even if they can't say so for fear of seeming "pro-molester"."

I get exactly what you are saying. You are advocating subjecting the decent society, to your roll of the dice, that a FEW will NOT reoffend.

We have locked up certain types of mentally ill people, in the past and present. It protects themselves and others.

In the short term, it can be done by any policeman. In California it is section 5150 and is defined as someone that poses a "risk to themselves or others."

In case you didn't know, judges can hold criminals, at the end of their sentence, for similar reasons. It is mental illness.

So with what I've just stated, do you find a pedophile to be different? The psychiatrist I met, as well as other competent medical experts consider pedophilia to be a "mental illness."

Lock em up.


256 posted on 04/22/2005 2:35:03 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
I get exactly what you are saying. You are advocating subjecting the decent society, to your roll of the dice, that a FEW will NOT reoffend.

Yes, why didn't I say it your way sooner. Clearly that's what I'm asserting. *sigh*

We have locked up certain types of mentally ill people, in the past and present. It protects themselves and others.

Oh, and what a proud history of justice those institutions have!

In the short term, it can be done by any policeman. In California it is section 5150 and is defined as someone that poses a "risk to themselves or others."

Isn't that special? One cop can incarcerate you without Due Process based on an arbitrary opinion. Yeah, that's what the Founders had in mind.

In case you didn't know, judges can hold criminals, at the end of their sentence, for similar reasons. It is mental illness.

Yes, but when they choose not to, you seem to want to impose that consequence anyway, despite the judge's decision. All of a sudden, you go from 100% faith in them to 0%, without a single fact being cited. That's not just. That's childish emotionalism: You don't get what you think you want (because, of course, what you want is always what's best for everyone), so you want to instantly change the rules so that you do "win".

So with what I've just stated, do you find a pedophile to be different?

I don't wish to treat categories of humans as a class. I prefer that individuals have their own cases assessed and are treated accordingly. Something about Due Process and all that.

Labelling a person, and then treating them according to the label you've affixed, is patently obnoxious behavior. Look at how the Left writes most of their literature! Label a person, and attack that label... but ignore any actual facts or arguments the person might make!

The psychiatrist I met, as well as other competent medical experts consider pedophilia to be a "mental illness."

How nice for them. That doesn't mean that every person in all cases ought to be treated the same as a reflex. Do you want to reflexively suffer the same consequences as your neighbor when your neighborhood is found to be a danger, but his contribution to that danger is 1000 times worse than yours?

A better hypo: you live in a town where 88% of the residents are molesters. Your town is walled off permanently because of the danger to neighboring towns. You appeal to the courts to let you escape, but you are not allowed to. You have been grouped with "THEM", permanently and irreversibly, without any regard for your own situation. Nice, isn't it?

Lock em up.

So glad you're eligible for jury duty. It'll save quite a bit of time and trouble by not bothering to refer to all of those silly rules, laws, and facts.

270 posted on 04/22/2005 3:00:52 PM PDT by Teacher317
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