[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for the ping to your discussion with Oztrich Boy!

betty boop: But if he stuffs them into his science, then we have to recognize that he's not doing science; he's doing theology under cover of science.

Oztrich boy: And yet, that is Intelligent Design in one sentence.

To be clear, Intelligent Design does not characterize the designer other than it being intelligent. The "designer" could be God (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.), aliens (panspermia, exobiology, etc.) or collective consciousness (Eastern mysticism, etc.) ID does not speak to doctrine at all.

Atheism, OTOH, is a "doctrine" in that it takes a position on God (as not-existing) and embraces ideology, philosophy and politics based on the notion that "all that there is" is that which physically exists in space/time. (corporeal, spatial, temporal)

If Intelligent Design were doing theology under the color of science, it would have a doctrine. Scientists who "evangelize" for atheism under the color of science [Lewontin, Pinker, Mayr, etc.] do have a doctrine.

[PatrickHenry]

To be clear, Intelligent Design does not characterize the designer other than it being intelligent. The "designer" could be God (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.), aliens (panspermia, exobiology, etc.) or collective consciousness (Eastern mysticism, etc.) ID does not speak to doctrine at all.

I hope you spend some time thinking about this, A-Girl. You may be one of the very few people in the world who doesn't see what ID is all about.

One Nation, Under the Designer. The true goals of the ID movement.
Discovery Institute's "Wedge Project". Replacing science with theism.
The Wedge at Work. The Discovery Institute's war against reason.
The "Wedge Document": "So What?" The Discovery Instutute defends the Wedge document.