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To: Orgiveme
"Those would be all the family members who believe, based on their own personal observation, that a vaccination preceded their personal fight with the autistic pandemic."

I'm sorry about their fight with Autism...That is horrible..But given the state of Literally Millions of children(including most everyone who is living right now and posting on this board) The problem isn't with the vaccinations on the large scale.

I can bring in just as many, and just as well documented Studies saying the exact opposite thing... Place the Root cause properly before your knees jerk out of socket and allow the Childhood Killers(Polio....WHooping Cough...etc..) to come back and kill humans by the millions...
54 posted on 04/20/2005 9:10:32 AM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Explodo
I can bring in just as many, and just as well documented Studies saying the exact opposite thing... Place the Root cause properly before your knees jerk out of socket and allow the Childhood Killers(Polio....WHooping Cough...etc..) to come back and kill humans by the millions...

So please do that for the sake of those who are reading this thread, and then remember that it is still up to you and me to decide whether or not the studies are being truthful. That's a whole 'other issue.

And while you're at it please identify whether or not you have a family member who has been affected by any of these conditions: it just helps everyone to know whether we're "asking the man who owns one."

63 posted on 04/20/2005 9:19:54 AM PDT by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: Explodo
I can bring in just as many, and just as well documented Studies saying the exact opposite thing... Place the Root cause properly before your knees jerk out of socket and allow the Childhood Killers(Polio....WHooping Cough...etc..) to come back and kill humans by the millions...

Which is the mindset behind protecting the NIP, rather than admit the truth, and heal the sick, while quietly doing away with thimerasol anyway.

69 posted on 04/20/2005 9:23:47 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Explodo
The 'discovery' of autism by an American physician coincided with the increasing availability of the pertussis vaccine in the '40s. At that point, autism was unknown in other countries.

After WW2, the vaccine spread to Western Europe and Japan. The first cases of autism appeared soon afterwards without fail in all of those countries.

Throughout the following decades, there were many theories that speculated on the genetic nature of autism, since mainly wel-educated, well-off families experienced the disorder. With the spread of vaccine to all strata of society over the decades, autism became prevelant in all races and classes, and those theories were discarded.

There are MANY anecdotal experience of parents with joyful, bright child. The child is vaccinated, is clearly damaged, and is then diagnosed with 'a complex genetic disorder' known as autism.

73 posted on 04/20/2005 9:24:33 AM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: Explodo
I can bring in just as many, and just as well documented Studies saying the exact opposite thing... Place the Root cause properly before your knees jerk out of socket and allow the Childhood Killers(Polio....WHooping Cough...etc..) to come back and kill humans by the millions...

My 15 year old daughter came down with whooping cough this winter. She only received one dose of her DPT shot--bad reaction to the first, so we only did DT after that.


The doctor said she was a lucky girl. Without that partial protection she would have been much sicker than she already was. I was scared out of my mind for her.

242 posted on 04/20/2005 12:26:04 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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