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Liberal US catholics dismayed at choice of Pope
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Posted on 04/19/2005 5:13:20 PM PDT by Alex Marko

BOSTON (Reuters) - Liberal U.S. Catholics on Tuesday expressed dismay at the choice of a conservative new pope and doubted he will heal an institution racked by disillusionment and tarnished by a sex abuse scandal among the clergy.

The election of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as Pope Benedict XVI rankled those who advocate married priests, a bigger role for women within the church and softening its policy on homosexuality, birth control, euthanasia and abortion.

Since taking over the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith as the Roman Catholic Church's chief ideologue, Ratzinger has denounced homosexuality and even branded other Christian churches as deficient.

"Gay and lesbian Catholics are going to be very hurt by this election because Cardinal Ratzinger was the lightning rod for so much of the anger they felt under the previous pope," said Francis DeBernardo, executive director of the New Ways Ministry, a national ministry for lesbian and gay Catholics.

Under the Pope John Paul II, American Catholics' attendance at weekly Mass declined as many were put off by what they saw as increasingly conservative Vatican doctrine.

The sense of alienation deepened with a well-publicized scandal over pedophile priests, which erupted in 2002 in the Archdiocese of Boston as court documents showed bishops shuttled pedophile priests from parish to parish.

Victims of sexual abuse by members of the clergy reacted skeptically to word that Ratzinger was the new pope.

"Ratzinger is a polarizing figure to many, who seems to prefer combativeness to compromise and compassion," Mary Grant of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests said in a statement. "It's ... crucial that the new pope follow the words and views of John Paul II who said 'there is no place in the priesthood for anyone who would harm the young."'

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Catholics for a Free Choice, a progressive group based in Washington, laid out an action plan for the new pontiff to pursue in his first 100 days with the goal of healing fractures within the church.

It urged the new pope to appoint a commission to review church policy on condoms, to establish a pontifical academy on women's rights in the church, and to welcome back those marginalized over the last quarter-century -- including gays and lesbians.

But those familiar with Ratzinger said to expect more of the same, and they doubted he would tailor his views to adapt to the liberal forces evident in the U.S. church.

"This is the guy who's been in charge of stifling dissent in the church," said lawyer Carmen Durso, who represented dozens of plaintiffs in clergy abuse lawsuits against the Boston archdiocese.

"This says to me that the Vatican ... is not prepared to move into the 21st Century, which it desperately needs to do," said Durso, who was raised Catholic but no longer practices.

Christine Schenk, a nun from Cleveland, Ohio, who favors opening the priesthood to married men, said she was disappointed and puzzled by Ratzinger's selection, but she saw glimmers of hope.

Schenk explained that Ratzinger had never ruled out the idea of married priests, and that the church is facing a deepening shortage of priests -- so he may be forced to act.

In a 2004 document, Ratzinger denounced "radical feminism" as undermining the family and natural differences between men and women.

Asked if there was anything in his background that gave her hope that Ratzinger would build a stronger partnership with women in the church, Quinn said: "We always hope for miracles".


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To: I still care
Being "raised Catholic" is just more B.S. for 'I want the Church to listen to my opinion even though I don't go anymore.' All of the "raised Catholic" types can p!$$ off. If you practice the faith you have at least some room to spout off, otherwise go join a Wiccan coven for all I care!

Cheers,

CSG

361 posted on 04/20/2005 3:37:37 PM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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To: ninenot
Bach benefactor didn't like it because it didn't sound like what he was used to hearing.

Most of the great composers when through the same thing.

362 posted on 04/20/2005 4:32:00 PM PDT by Military family member (Bless the Legacy of John Paul II)
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To: nina0113

ping to 152, 155 and 157.


363 posted on 04/20/2005 8:19:30 PM PDT by Steve0113 (Stay to the far right to get by.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
>>>>>> I am presbyterian and have been thinking about switching to catholicism.

Someone like you would be a great addition to the Church!

364 posted on 04/20/2005 8:34:03 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: SuziQ
He considered his life and his service to the Church his gift to God and the world, and prayed that he would leave something of himself behind in those whom he led to a deeper life in Jesus.

Celibacy is not required in order to "leave something of one's self behind" for Jesus.

Celibacy is a radical renunciation of the world in order to follow the Lord. But celibacy is secondary to the availability of the Eucharist to every Catholic who hungers for it.

If men are not going to embrace a celibate priesthood, (and they are not embracing it in the United States), then the Church will have to call non-celibates, as it has done and continues to do, as long as they pass themselves through the Anglican Church first.

365 posted on 04/20/2005 9:22:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Thorin; All

Thank you, I have gotten the nicest responses from some catholic FReepers. Thank you all for the support and prayers.


366 posted on 04/21/2005 5:55:19 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Anyone else able to track the hubby's movements by open drawers,cabinets and clothes on the floor?)
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To: devolve
More Catholics and voter of German ancestry will vote Republican now

Yes, this may be a good thing for Germany, we've all read stories about their youth groups who are adopting the ways of Hitlers Germany.

367 posted on 04/21/2005 2:10:03 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: CompSciGuy; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; DoughtyOne


Dittoes -

Like that idiot bigoted non-Christian journalist "Ms. Rosenthal" telling the Vatican who and why and what agenda new Pope Benedick should have and why - and slipping in that old tired "NAZI-anti-semetic" cliched garbage again.

As a Protestant I am appalled but not surprised that Christian-haters in the radical (Socialist/Commie) Limo-liberal media and politicians and homosexuals and atheists would attempt to demand the person elected as Pope and his agenda to suit their personal worldview(s).

I certainly don*t pick Rabbis or tell Wiccans how to fly their brooms in bad weather.

They better be prepared to deal with reality - calling Ratzinger "the Panzer Pope" and "anti-Semetic" and a "homophobe" will not get them anywhere except further deeper in the pit.

When Pope Benedict smiles broadly at you on TV and waves just be assured he is laughing at their moronic agenda of the radicals and perverted and "Movin` On" with his!






368 posted on 04/21/2005 2:43:02 PM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WhiteCliffsOfDover.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot -)
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To: devolve

Good post devolve. As a Catholic I have never called any other religious leader names. Only some Mullah urging his subjects to kill others deserves that.

Common sense and decency is becoming a lost virtue.


369 posted on 04/21/2005 5:35:23 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Ann Archy

Northern Massachusetts and my children attend the ONLY Catholic school in Massachusetts, Immaculate Heart of Mary. You can see more at www.saintbenedict.com.


370 posted on 05/03/2005 11:13:18 AM PDT by msamizdat
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