Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: N. Beaujon
"Don't you think Jean-Marie Lustiger would have better fulfilled the prophecy (a Jew from the Olive Mount)? And what do you think about his taking of the name Benedictine? Do you think the Gloria Olivae is why he took that name? I can't think of another reason. "

There certainly was a lot of speculation that would be the case. But I'm glad the cardinals don't look to the prophecy to fill the role. You would think that he would be aware of the prophecy and that could certainly influence the selection of the name Benedict. However, that's a little frustrating in that you want to see prophecy fulfilled without people taking action to fulfill it after being aware of it.

I just finished reading this blog I found after searching for Benedict and Olive. Blog on Gloria Olivae. It suggests that the name implies a peace bringer. Which is interesting in that when Russia invades Israel, Israel is supposed to be at peace in a land of "unwalled villages". Israel is practically the only nation in the world that is building walls. (Maybe the US along the Mexican border). Apparently the fence will come down and Israel will acheive peace before the war.

It's not hard to see the possibility of a "hook" being put in Russia's jaw to bring them down into the middle east. After Beslan, they are going to take an increasingly harder line with Islamic terrorism.

"If the prophecies are true we are, what, 2 popes away from The End? ;) "

If Malachy is correct, then this pope is either the last pope or the next to last pope. Gloria Olivae is the last pope that is numbered. Then the prophecy has a paragraph that is not numbered that says that Peter the Great will lead the church through a time of great tribulation.

What that means, I can only speculate. But here's my thoughts. I believe the rapture will occur before the Great Tribulation.

Two possibilities:


2,820 posted on 04/19/2005 8:51:13 PM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2166 | View Replies ]


To: DannyTN
There certainly was a lot of speculation that would be the case. But I'm glad the cardinals don't look to the prophecy to fill the role. You would think that he would be aware of the prophecy and that could certainly influence the selection of the name Benedict. However, that's a little frustrating in that you want to see prophecy fulfilled without people taking action to fulfill it after being aware of it.

I really wish I could understand what you’re saying. No matter how many times I read it, the above makes no sense. What I am saying is that the reason Ratzinger chose the name was in an attempt to validate the prophecy.

As far as your blog’s interpretation, have you even read Malachy's prophecies? The prophecies are short and they are all numbered. The last reads as follows, "In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex tremêdus judicabit populum suum. Finis. (In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End."

There is absolutely nothing about a city with no walls, Russia invading Israel or anything else about which you speak.

Further, The Gloriae Olivae simply translated means “the Glory of the Olive”. It was the Benedictines who insisted this pope would come from their order. Others have felt it referred to a pope that would come from Israel, a Jew. (The Olive Mount) or a peace-maker (the olive branch.) As you must be aware Jean-Marie Lustiger is a Jew, many thought he would be appointed. Ratzinger’s taking of the name Benedict seems to be his own attempt at keeping with the prophecy. He is neither a Benedictine or a Jew.

Benedictine, as your blog implies, does not stand for peace, per se. The Olive reference has to do with the traditional symbol of the Benedictine Monks, the olive or the olive tree, since they made (among other things) olive oil. The blog that you stumbled upon appears to have more to do with conspiracy theory and subjective interpretation than the actual language of Malachy’s text.

Here is an original source. http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp. It helps if you understand Latin.

2,903 posted on 04/20/2005 10:11:47 AM PDT by N. Beaujon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2820 | View Replies ]

To: DannyTN

And I guess at this point, it's hard to imagine that Ratzinger is ever going to be called "Peter the Roman".


2,910 posted on 04/20/2005 12:23:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2820 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson