[sitetest]

Dear Darkwolf,

I really don't mind.

You're a pleasant enough interlocutor.

Your friend is on the tail-end of the "Spirit of Vatican II" folks.

Kinda sad.

I suppose that perhaps she doesn't believe in the corporeal Resurrection of Jesus, or the Real Presence of the Eucharist, or perhaps even any of the miracles of the New Testament?

Is she one of these types, "Jesus was an itinerant preacher who preached love and stuff, and never meant to get himself crucified, deified, or churchified."?


sitetest

[Darkwolf]

LOL Let me try to encapsulate it: I think she believes everything in the Bible, but from the beginning of the church on, she's saying that Jesus didn't want the church to be the way it is because he didn't organize it himself.

I think she doesn't like how the church is acting on the molestation and selling-off-property issues. And from that, I think she's listening to her liberal priest and kind of following along, reading books he recommends, etc.

I'm in a weird position. I'm a non-believer who's trying to point out to her, purely on the merits, that while it's fine to decide you're not a catholic or whatever, it's a strange argument to say the Catholic Church isn't the church of Christ--WHILE being IN that church.

If you don't believe, leave. But why remain in the church and try to change it into just another protestant church? It's baffling.