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1 posted on 04/19/2005 8:53:40 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

Amazing. I wonder if folx will be this excited to see Christ return?


1,759 posted on 04/19/2005 10:38:58 AM PDT by dware (Go then. There are other worlds than these.)
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Remember this article from a few weeks ago? I think it was from Newsmax.


Sunday, April 3, 2005 6:01 p.m. EDT
Saint's Prophecy: Only Two Popes Remain

When the cardinals of the world pick John Paul II's successor, they may well be choosing the next-to-last pope.

The pope who then follows this choice in the Chair of St. Peter will be the last pope, and after his reign Rome will be destroyed.

Such has been the prophecy of St. Malachy, an Irish bishop who at his death in 1148 A.D. was discovered to have left behind a prophetic list of all future popes beginning with Pope Celestine II, whose papacy began in 1143 A.D.

Malachy included a single line in Latin identifying a characteristic of each pope.

Historians say Malachy's prediction – wherein he listed just 112 popes – has been amazingly accurate.

According to his list, there are just two more popes after the late John Paul II.

Here are the seven last popes as identified from St. Malachy's list:

106. Pius XII 1939 - 1958
Eugenio Pacelli
Pastor Angelicus
Translated: An Angelic Shepherd

107. John XXIII 1968 - 1963
Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli
Pastor Et Natua
Translated: Pastor and Mariner

108. Paul VI 1963 - 1978
Giovanni Battista Montini
Flos Florum
Translated: Flower of Flowers

109. John Paul I 1978 - 1978
Albino Luciani
De Medietate Lunae
Translated: Of the Half Moon

110. John Paul II 1978 - 2005
Karol Jozef Wojtyla
De Labore Solis
Translated: From the Toil of the Sun

111. The next pope
"Gloria Olivae"
Translated: The Glory of the Olive

112. The last pope!
"Petrus Romanus"
Translated: Peter the Roman


Wrote St. Malachy of the last pope: "In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge the people. The End."

According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book "Life of Saint Malachy," the saint was known to have the gift of prophesy and had even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. Saint Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

While in Rome in 1139, Saint Malachy is said to have gone into a trance and received a vision in which he foresaw all the popes from the death of Innocent II until the end of time.

Afterward he wrote a few words about each pope and gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II, who is said to have deposited it in Vatican Archives, where it lay forgotten until it was discovered in 1590 and published. At the time, some questioned its authenticity and it has been the subject of debate ever since.

The manuscript contains 112 prophecies, which scholars have matched with each of the 110 popes and anti-popes since Innocent II .

Here are the prophecies for the most recent popes:


Paul VI. The words of the 108th prophecy are "Flos Florum" (Flower of Flowers). The 108th pope after Innocent II was Paul VI (1963-78). His coat of arms included three fleurs-de-lis (iris blossoms).

John Paul I. The 109th is "De Medietate Lunae" (Of the Half Moon). The corresponding pope was John Paul I (1978-78), who was born in the diocese of Belluno (beautiful moon) and was baptized Albino Luciani (white light). He became pope on August 26, 1978, when the moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon.

John Paul II. The 110th is "De Labore Solis" (Of the Solar Eclipse, or From the Toil of the Sun). The corresponding pope was John Paul II (1978-2005). John Paul II was born on May 8, 1920 during an eclipse of the sun. Like the sun, he came out of the East (Poland). Like the sun, he visited countries all around the globe.
Today the final two prophecies are yet to be fulfilled:

The 111th prophecy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The meaning of the olive is unclear. The Order of Saint Benedict – not St. Malachy – has claimed that this pope will come from its ranks and Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its final fight against evil.

The 112th prophecy says, "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman), who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people


1,781 posted on 04/19/2005 10:41:10 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: Rutles4Ever

Good luck to Benedict XVI! Here's hoping good things come from this!


1,805 posted on 04/19/2005 10:43:31 AM PDT by LiveBait
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To: Rutles4Ever

Te Deum laudamus: te Dominum confitemur.
Te aeternum Patrem omnis terra veneratur.
Tibi omnes Angeli; tibi Caeli et universae Potestates;
Tibi Cherubim et Seraphim incessabili voce proclamant: Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth.
Pleni sunt caeli et terra maiestatis gloriae tuae.
Te gloriosus Apostolorum chorus,
Te Prophetarum laudabilis numerus,
Te Martyrum candidatus laudat exercitus.
Te per orbem terrarum sancta confitetur Ecclesia,
Patrem immensae maiestatis:
Venerandum tuum verum et unicum Filium;
Sanctum quoque Paraclitum Spiritum.
Tu Rex gloriae, Christe.
Tu Patris sempiternus es Filius.
Tu ad liberandum suscepturus hominem, non horruisti Virginis uterum.
Tu, devicto mortis aculeo, aperuisti credentibus regna caelorum.
Tu ad dexteram Dei sedes, in gloria Patris.
Iudex crederis esse venturus.
Te ergo quaesumus, tuis famulis subveni: quos pretioso sanguine redemisti.
Aeterna fac cum sanctis tuis in gloria numerari.
Salvum fac populum tuum, Domine, et benedic hereditati tuae.
Et rege eos, et extolle illos usque in aeternum.
Per singulos dies benedicimus te.
Et laudamus nomen tuum in saeculum, et in saeculum saeculi.
Dignare, Domine, die isto sine peccato nos custodire.
Miserere nostri, Domine, miserere nostri.
Fiat misericordia tua, Domine, super nos, quemadmodum speravimus in te.
In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.


1,899 posted on 04/19/2005 10:52:16 AM PDT by tjwmason (For he himself has said, and it's greatly to his credit, he remains an Englishman.)
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Ratzinger...I called it!


1,904 posted on 04/19/2005 10:52:50 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Heteronormative and PROUD!!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Vive Il Papa!


1,961 posted on 04/19/2005 10:59:32 AM PDT by msamizdat
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To: Rutles4Ever

I'm very glad that Cardinal Ratzinger has been elected Pope. Thanks God!


1,973 posted on 04/19/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by Reader of news
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To: Rutles4Ever

Good choice in Rome today.

Ratzinger is an outspoken friend of American christians and even said, that Europe can learn from the American example. Ratziger was silent on the Iraq issue because he didn't want to argue JP2's position against the war. Insiders believe that Ratzinger understood and approved the reason for this war. Ratzinger is a true conservative. Another nail in the coffin to the liberalist agenda.


2,016 posted on 04/19/2005 11:07:00 AM PDT by concan
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To: Rutles4Ever

Good choice in Rome today.

Ratzinger is an outspoken friend of American christians and even said, that Europe can learn from the American example. Ratziger was silent on the Iraq issue because he didn't want to argue JP2's position against the war. Insiders believe that Ratzinger understood and approved the reason for this war. Ratzinger is a true conservative. Another nail in the coffin to the liberalist agenda.


2,017 posted on 04/19/2005 11:07:05 AM PDT by concan
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To: Rutles4Ever

God bless Pope Benedict XVI and the Catholic Church!


2,039 posted on 04/19/2005 11:09:00 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: Rutles4Ever

Could a Catholic answer a question for me? (I already know the non-Catholic answer so that's not required, thank you.) I told a friend that I thought Catholics believed that Jesus created the first Pope, and I was told Jesus did not create a religion or define a system for ruling one. Again, I know that's how non-Catholics believe, but what is the Catholic response to that? Thank you in advance. (Feel free to answer by mail if you think this might interrupt the mood on this thread.)


2,045 posted on 04/19/2005 11:10:18 AM PDT by Darkwolf (Proud Yankee, Proudly Pro-Free Speech)
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To: Rutles4Ever
WE HAVE A POPE!!! (Cardinal Ratzinger-Pope Benedict XVI)

Sounds like a great choice.

I think I approve!

2,057 posted on 04/19/2005 11:12:12 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Rutles4Ever

I think he was my first guess when we were predicting...

Can't wait to hear what he will say in his masses, speeches...

what 'message' he will proclaim...

If pope JPll preached a unity of religions,
and this Ratzinger (so far) has preached the tradititional RC doctrine,
it will be interesting to see what happens next...

so fascinating!


2,102 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:05 AM PDT by Gal.5:1 (keep standing firm)
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To: Rutles4Ever

What reaction to this in Bavaria, the home of the new Pope. When a Polish Pope was selected the media almost immediately went to the Polish reaction. Hopefully this pope can convert the pagan Germans to Christianity again.


2,114 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:35 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: Rutles4Ever

How do you integrate the doctrine of global universalism (JPll)...

with the doctrine of traditional RC theology -that only RCC is true religion (Ratzinger) ??

This shall be interesting!


2,140 posted on 04/19/2005 11:20:21 AM PDT by Gal.5:1 (keep standing firm)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Congratulations to my Catholic FRiends on the election of Pope Benedict. He promises to be as significant as his predecessor. Just one request--could someone please teach the red hats some economics.


2,165 posted on 04/19/2005 11:24:17 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: Rutles4Ever
From Wikipedia.org:

Pope Benedict XVI, a devout anarchist, officially in Latin Benedictus PP. XVI, born Joseph Ratzinger on April 16, 1927, was elected Pope of the Roman Catholic Church on April 19, 2005.

2,220 posted on 04/19/2005 11:33:24 AM PDT by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Rutles4Ever

The Order of St Benedict has claimed by tradition that this pope will come from within the Order. St Benedict himself has prophesied that before the end of the world comes about, his Order will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil. The Order of St Benedict is also known as the OLIVETANS, which may well account for another interpretation of the prophecy. - from the prophecy of St. Malachy, regarding the next pope in line.

Either this is weirdly accurate, or the new pope has just forced the issue.


2,259 posted on 04/19/2005 11:42:22 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I'm not nearklym drunk enough tom deal with it. - FReeper Wormwood, 4/18/05)
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To: Rutles4Ever
As much as the Moderate and Liberals think this is a bad thing, I can't help but to be happy. Maybe Benedict will push back some of the Vatican II 'reforms'. I myself would like to see a greater return of the Latin (Tridentine) Mass. Benedict may also help to purge the pedophiles from the Church. Both things would be a blessing.

Cheers,

CSG

2,338 posted on 04/19/2005 11:59:45 AM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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To: Eepsy

Amazon.com is currently sold out of Pope Benedict's (Cardinal Ratzinger's) books, but they can still be obtained at Ignatius Press, 1-800-651-1531

They have a website, but it's slow as molasses

http://www.ignatius.com


2,341 posted on 04/19/2005 11:59:56 AM PDT by Eepsy
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