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SOUTH AFRICA: GET THIS MONKEY OFF HIS BACK
NY Times ^ | 4-15-05 | Michael Wines (NYT)

Posted on 04/15/2005 3:36:01 PM PDT by Rakkasan1

World Briefings

Published: April 15, 2005

SOUTH AFRICA: GET THIS MONKEY OFF HIS BACK A male chimpanzee at Bloemfontein Zoo is wrestling to break a nicotine addiction after picking up the smoking habit from visitors who tossed lit cigarette butts into his enclosure, zoo officials said. The adult chimp, named Charlie, probably acquired the butts by mimicking zoogoers' smoking as they passed by, leading them to toss him cigarettes. Charlie now hides his cigarettes when zookeepers approach so that they will not be confiscated, officials said. Nor is it his only bad habit. Charlie has three bad teeth, said a zoo official, Daryl Barnes, blame for which goes to visitors who continue to feed him sugary soft drinks. Michael Wines (NYT)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: monkey; nicotine; smoking; southafrica; zoo
bad monkey.
1 posted on 04/15/2005 3:36:02 PM PDT by Rakkasan1
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To: Rakkasan1

They might all smoke, or burst into flames for all I care.
I don't have any sympathy for chimps since that poor man with the birthday cake got attacked a few weeks back. Has anybody heard an update on him?


2 posted on 04/15/2005 4:03:55 PM PDT by Graymatter (a Terri Schiavo Republican)
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To: Rakkasan1
Bad zoo keepers. Animals have rights too.

Give him a bottle of Tequila, an ice chest full of brewskis, all you can eat barbecue and last (But not least.) a good looking monkey babe.

And watch gate receipts go up.

After all, they'd be going at it like a couple of drunken monkeys.

Ugh. Now I feel like I need to be deloused.
3 posted on 04/15/2005 4:04:42 PM PDT by BubbaTex (Long time lurker)
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To: BubbaTex

that would be a monkey who's been watching the Left Wing on TV


4 posted on 04/15/2005 4:08:25 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Charlie has three bad teeth, said a zoo official, Daryl Barnes, blame for which goes to visitors who continue to feed him sugary soft drinks. Michael Wines (NYT)

Probably doesn't floss enough.


6 posted on 04/15/2005 4:11:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

monkey meth mouth


7 posted on 04/15/2005 4:11:51 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: Alouette

rather sad.


8 posted on 04/15/2005 4:23:29 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: Graymatter
don't have any sympathy for chimps since that poor man with the birthday cake got attacked a few weeks back. Has anybody heard an update on him?

No, but I guess you don't have any sympathy for people then either. We are always killing, raping, pillaging and so forth....well some of us are anyway.

9 posted on 04/15/2005 4:58:14 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: tet68
Probably doesn't floss enough.

Funny thing about that. My dentist has this "educational" computer presentation, with embedded video, running in the treatment rooms. One segment has a chimp that flosses and brushes. She doesn't brush too well, but her flossing skills are excellent.

10 posted on 04/15/2005 5:03:41 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: El Gato

Do you really see no difference there?


11 posted on 04/15/2005 5:13:39 PM PDT by Graymatter (a Terri Schiavo Republican)
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To: Graymatter
Do you really see no difference there?

Well not so very much. Chimps aren't as intelligent as people, but they do display a large variance in behaviors, one to another, as do humans. There are some places I either won't go at all, or will only go armed, but that doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for the folks who live there, nor does it mean I have no sympathy for all people.

As with all animals, you have to treat with them based on some kind of understanding of their behaviors. You can't apply human standards, especially not those appropriate in American society, to chimps. We are supposed to be the intelligent ones after all.

In the case at hand it was human error that allowed the aggressive young chimps (Males, IIRC) who tend to be very territorial, to have access to the humans who were coming to visit the chimp they had raised. That chimp I have a lot of sympathy for, because he or she was not raised as a chimp, but rather as a human. If they gave it up before it got too very old, that might not be so bad, because the differences between baby humans, baby gorillas, and baby chimps are less than the comparable difference between adults of those three species. The folks who had raised the chimp didn't expect any other chimps to be around, so they weren't in the proper frame of mind for handling those aggressive/territorial males, assuming they would ever have had it, which is questionable considering they undertook to raise a chimp beyond just the early "rescue" phase, say through weaning or eruption of teeth.

12 posted on 04/15/2005 5:49:03 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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