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To: robertpaulsen

"Begone. Take your gossip elsewhere."
Oh Begone yourself, like your blather makes any difference at all or anyones really at this point. The deed is done, Florida needs to put some safe guards in place and always err on the side of life when that person is not ill or suffering and there are loved ones who will gladly take responsibility at their own home, if not that certainly with therapy, and love does wonders.

Testimony of Michael Schiavo, Medical Malpractice Trial
Q. Why did you want to learn to be a nurse?
MS. Because I enjoy it and I want to learn more how to take care of Terri.
Q. You're a young man. Your life is ahead of you. When you look up the road, what do you see for yourself?
MS. I see myself hopefully finishing school and taking care of my wife.
Q. Where do you want to take care of your wife?
MS. I want to bring her home.
Q. If you had the resources available to you, if you had the equipment and the people, would you do that?
MS. Yes, I would, in a heartbeat.
Q. How do you feel about being married to Terri now.
MS. I feel wonderful. She's my life and I wouldn't trade her for the world. I believe in my marriage vows.
Q. You believe in your wedding vows, what do you mean by that?
MS. I believe in the vows I took with my wife, through sickness, in health, for richer or poor. I married my wife because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. I'm going to do that.
NOTE: NO MENTION OF HER WISH TO DIE HERE
(copy paste from another thread here)
WHAT DID MICHAEL DO?
Aug 1992 - Terri awarded $250,000 in malpractice 'OUT-OF-COURT' settlement.
Nov 1992 - Terri awarded $1.4 million in malpractice trial.
Nov 1992-Michael Schiavo awarded $600,000 in malpractice trial.
After the malpractice suit Michael took Terri home for approximately four months....
In 1993-Michael Schiavo orders no treatment for Terri's potentially fatal infection.
Not only did Mr. Schiavo not provide Terri with rehabilitation, he has denied his wife any and all therapy, against Doctors' recommendations, since the 1993 malpractice award
Not only did Mr. Schiavo not provide Terri with rehabilitation, he has denied his wife any and all therapy, against Doctors' recommendations, since the 1993 malpractice award.
November 1993
Michael Schiavo Deposition, Guardianship Hearing
Q. What was her bladder condition?
MS. She had a UTI.
Q. What is that?
MS. Urinary tract infection.
Q. What did the doctor tell you treatment for that would be?
MS. Antibiotic usually.
Q. And did he tell you what would occur if you failed to treat that infection? What did he tell you?
MS. That sometimes urinary tract infection will turn to sepsis.
Q. And sepsis is what?
MS. An infection throughout the body.
Q. And what would the result of untreated sepsis be to the patient?
MS. The patient would pass on.
Q. So when you made the decision not to treat Terri's bladder infection you, in effect, were making a decision to allow her to pass on?
MS. I was making a decision on what Terri would want.
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My comment, yes right, Terri would want to die from a urinary tract infection. That was her wishes, geez
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Q. Had the bladder condition been treated?
MS. Yes.
Q. And was...what was the reason that the bladder condition was treated?
MS. Sable Palms Nursing Home said they could not do that by some Florida law which wasn't stated.
Q. But you didn't change your opinion or your decision to not treat the bladder condition?
MS. We did change it.
Q. Correct?
MS. Repeat the question.
Q. You did not change your decision not to treat the bladder condition, correct?
MS. I had to change my decision.
Q. Sable Palms changed it for you?
Attorney Nillson Objection
Q. Okay. Is there any reason that you would not make the same decision that you previously made if the problem came up again?
MS. Repeat your question. You're losing me here.
Q. Let me be more specific. If your wife developed another condition that could result in her death, is there any reason that you would not take the position that you're not going to treat that condition and you're going to instruct the doctor not to treat that condition?
MS. I wouldn't instruct anybody, no.
Q. You instructed the doctor not to treat the condition, correct?
Attorney Nillson Objection
Q. You instructed the doctor not to treat the condition, correct?
Attorney Nillson Objection
Q. You did instruct the doctor not to treat her bladder condition, correct?
MS. Uh-huh. Yes.
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My comment: This gives tons of credibility to the Nurses affadivit, IMO
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Q. If a similar...would you do the same?
MS. I'm thinking.
Q. Take your time.
MS. I probably wouldn't instruct the doctor to do it.
Q. So you've changed your opinion?
MS. Sort of, yeah.
Q. Why have you changed your opinion?
MS. Because evidently there is a law out there that says I can't do it.

Q. Is that the only reason?
MS. Basically, maybe.
Q. What you're telling me is, is that there is nothing in your belief or feelings that have changed. The only thing that has changed is the fact that you perceive the law prevents you to do what you intended to do?
MS. Correct.
Q. What did you do with your wife's jewelry?
MS. My wife's jewelry?
Q. Yeah.
MS. Um, I think I took her engagement ring and her...what do they call it...diamond wedding band and made a ring for myself.
Q. What did you do with her cats?
MS. Her cats were put to sleep n the advice of my mother-in-law.
(Note: The veterinarian who performed the euthanasia of Terri's pets came forward to say there was never any suggestion from Terri's mother that this be done and only Mr. Schiavo's insistence.)
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Your comment:
"and it was 100% the greedy parent's fault."
Well you and types like you may assume that but from my thinking they always had Terri's utmost in their minds and it was the fact that MS didn't, that caused this rift.
And you are correct, I do not have an open mind about this, it's only my opinion that Terri was not only a victim of her monster husband,but also a victim of change in the Florida State Law.
They murdered this healthy disabled woman, that is my opinion. They even brought in some so called priest who compared his own experience with the death of his father who was terminally ill with cancer and made reference to the prior Pope 1953, not the current, now deceased Pope whose views on Life and Death were pretty clear.

Talk your talk, I'll do mine, Terri is ashes now, and if anyone had any doubts re: MS its clear that after he had his way, in my opinion, nothing was too low that MS would not do to the Shindler's re: Terri's cremation and funeral.
I had a friend die recently of uterine cancer. She died in a hospice. She had nuns with her holding her singing to her, her family there and even her dog.She was cremated, her husband shared her ashes with her family and he had his own burial and they theirs a rememberance. She was not starved to death and dehydrated, btw.
Terri didn't need to die, she had no progressive illness.

Hey I just know that if I was in the same situation my husband would melt my rings for a ring for himself, and kill my dog. (NOT) Whadda guy MS is FIRST CLASS All THE WAY. What a prize Jodi gets.


100 posted on 04/17/2005 2:03:59 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: Gimme
So instead of a point-by-point rebuttal to my post, I get a cut-and-paste piece of irrelevant propaganda?

Well, as they say, "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$hit.

101 posted on 04/18/2005 6:16:23 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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