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You must have great faith that a political body of men are "infallible".

I don't see how that follows from what I said. But it is no doctrine of Catholicism that Church leaders are infallible. Rather, the doctrine holds that the Church is infallible in "her objective definitive teaching regarding faith and morals", according to the promise of Christ.

-A8

850 posted on 04/15/2005 8:29:16 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)

"But it is no doctrine of Catholicism that Church leaders are infallible. Rather, the doctrine holds that the Church is infallible in "her objective definitive teaching regarding faith and morals", according to the promise of Christ."

This doctrine must match up to scripture. Is Vatican II infallible or is it not? Is the Protestant a separated brother or cursed? Why was the teaching of the Assumption declared to be a heresy around 500 AD and presto, wallah, it became heresy not to believe in the Assumption after 1950 AD?

This is not a small case of "theolegoumena", nope, a heretic for believing in the Assumption, then turning around and proclaiming the exact opposite is head scratching to say the least. Is everyone banished for not believing in the Assumption?