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Baptist church 'fake pope' sign attracting attention, criticism (Pope Bound for Hell).
Knoxville News-Sentinel Co. ^ | April 13, 2005 | JEANNINE F. HUNTER

Posted on 04/14/2005 12:00:51 PM PDT by Dean Baker

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To: Modernman

If you don't understand Christ rightly, you don't know him at all.

And, those extra beliefs exalt man in the place of Christ.

Therefore, it would lead to damnation.


541 posted on 04/14/2005 7:38:17 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: BriarBey
"...there will be a One world order with a One world religion."

You've bought into a variation of The HOAX

Paul destroys the HOAX in one sentence: Galatians 3:7.Get a grip.

542 posted on 04/14/2005 7:39:29 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Dean Baker

The Pope is NOT in hell. He is still talking with the Lord about all of the wrong things he did and the millions he mislead. It's going to take a while.


543 posted on 04/14/2005 7:40:17 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: safisoft
You can't read. The Septuagint was translated from Hebrew to Greek in 270 BCE. - which predates the Roman "church" by about 500 years. The same thirty-nine books in your "Old Testament" are in the Septuagint. The "church" canonized nothing except your dreams. Sheesh, you guys are the greatest revisionists ever. I can tell you that my copy of the Masor has not the slightest hint of Roman Catholicism in it. It was not canonized by the Roman church. You own Judaism 2/3s of your Bible, bud. If it had not been for the Ben Asher family Jerome wouldn't have been able to SPELL Israel.

More straw men -what is this, the great harvest? LOL

544 posted on 04/14/2005 7:46:06 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Thorin

Was the Pope correct that Mary was a co-mediator and a co-redeemer with Christ?

Was he correct that salvation is not by grace through faith, but instead by works plus faith?

Was he correct that there is a purgatory?

Was he correct that some believers deserve to be recognized as saints when we all believers are saints according to Scripture (yes, I am aware that thet Catholic tradition of naming saints does not mean there are not other saints....but by singling out people for higher veneration, the equality of believers is destroyed...Scripture refers to all believers as saints and does not authorize church judgment to call certain ones definite saints while passing by others.

Was he correct that he is infallible when on the Chair speaking doctrine?

Was he right to forbid marriage when Scripture says that is sin to forbid people to marry?

If he is Biblically correct in these things, I will retract my charge.


545 posted on 04/14/2005 7:46:49 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Thorin

Please not that I do respect the Pope a great deal for his political work.

But, that doesn't change my other concerns.


546 posted on 04/14/2005 7:47:27 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas
Prove that the church right after the death/resurrection of Christ taught RCC doctrine. I love how you guys always say "we are the real church" and can't point to anything in REAL early church history. I note the early church creeds don't teach your doctrine.

Are you back again? LOL

547 posted on 04/14/2005 7:48:40 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: rwfromkansas
>>>>>Please not that I do respect the Pope a great deal for his political work.

Anyone who would come on a section of the website set aside for news on the Pope to assert that the Pope is in Hell is a moron.

548 posted on 04/14/2005 7:52:31 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Thorin

I did not say he is in hell. I said I question if God would let a false teacher in.

Head to dictionary.com and read the entry for "assert" and then "wonder."

I was wondering about, not asserting his destiny.


549 posted on 04/14/2005 7:55:46 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas
Was the Pope correct that Mary was a co-mediator and a co-redeemer with Christ?

That the Pope did not say. Jesus is Redeemer, Mary is co-redemptrix. Jesus is not co-redeemer.

Try learning what Catholics believe before asking whether they're correct or not. But since you asked, yes, Catholic beliefs are all correct.

If he is Biblically correct in these things, I will retract my charge.

Ha! We would have to know your personal interpretation of the Bible to give you an answer you would accept. Suffice it to say every Catholic belief is consistent with (not necessarily solely reliant on) Scripture according to our interpretation, as guided by and revealed through the Holy Spirit. You don't want to argue with the Holy Spirit, do you?

550 posted on 04/14/2005 7:58:11 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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To: MeanWestTexan
" . . For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring . . . "

What I said. :)

551 posted on 04/14/2005 7:59:00 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: JohnnyZ

Give me Scripture for all those beleifs, and that is enough.

I will then retract my charge.

Very simple.


552 posted on 04/14/2005 8:02:14 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: B Knotts

"You are way off in some of your characterizations"

Which ones specifically?


553 posted on 04/14/2005 8:02:15 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: general_re

Didn't Saint Stephen, who according to the bible was filled with the holy spirit, address a group of people as brothers and fathers. If he was filled with the holy spirit, how could he disobey Christ? He didn't. When Jesus said call no man father, he meant in the sense that we should look to no one but God regarding certain things. Christ also said call no man teacher.


554 posted on 04/14/2005 8:07:34 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: rwfromkansas
Therefore, it would lead to damnation.

Asserting such a huge manifestation of your own hubris about folks who make leaps of faith different from yours is quite repulsive to me personally. Whatever sect you follow is one that I hopes does not prosper. It is not conducive to a civil society.

555 posted on 04/14/2005 8:08:54 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: rwfromkansas
Give me Scripture for all those beleifs, and that is enough.

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/ccc.html

556 posted on 04/14/2005 8:09:21 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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To: Dean Baker
The week after the pope died, I saw so much footage of him with the poor, the sick and suffering. How he would cradle the head of an invalid, or kiss the cheek of a child. How can anyone say anything bad about this wonderful man? People that say catholics worship the pope, really need to read the Catholic Catechism because they are really misinformed.
557 posted on 04/14/2005 8:09:59 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: rwfromkansas
>>>>>I did not say he is in hell. I said I question if God would let a false teacher in.

You said you can't imagine God letting the Pope in Heaven. It is logical to assume that you think he is in Hell.

You remain a moron. What motivates you fundamentalist pinheads to come onto religion threads that attract Catholics to attack the Catholic Church and, in this case, a figure revered around the world, shortly after his death? Does it make you feel important? Does it give you an outlet for your aggression? Rest assured that no one will be attracted to your warped belief system by your antics.

558 posted on 04/14/2005 8:12:05 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: rwfromkansas
The Pope was a false teacher. I can't imagine God letting him into heaven.

"I believe the Pope was saved and is in heaven." -- rwfromkansas

559 posted on 04/14/2005 8:13:48 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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To: JohnnyZ

Nice try, but a catechism isn't going to do it.


560 posted on 04/14/2005 8:13:56 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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