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To: WRhine
As a landlord I have had over 800 immigrants in my apartments in the past.
I have found jobs for over 100 that were not my tenants, plus many that were.
I have taught ESL and citizenship to over 300.
I have attended church with hundreds most of whom do not overlap the above.
I have been part of organizing hundreds in political action on slum housing, police protection, etc.
(Incidentally I have been part of groups that organized "welfare rights groups of over 500 and knew most of them casually / by name and they were heavily non-immigrant, non-Black citizens ... meaning white and Puerto Rican. But only a few of Mexican ancestry in a heavily immigrant/Mexican area.
I have inspected the houses of literally thousands in my prior profession. 50 homes a day, over 200 days a year for a couple years and less often for 14 years.
I am the one who talks about immigration to both the Hispanic cleaning crew and the Indian IT workers in over 30 big company offices in Illinois where I've been a consultant. I've trained Indians to take my job back to India with them. I am active on Indian immigrant chat rooms.
In the distant past I've knocked on every door in over 20 heavily immigrant city precincts for political and community organizing purposes.
In the recent past I've knocked on every door in 15 heavily immigrant suburban precincts plus about 10 not so heavily immigrant precincts.
In my precincts, all but one Hispanic voter voted for Bush in '80 and for my GOP slate in a divisive 3 way race with 2 GOP slates and 1 Dem slate. The lone Dem voter is a 3d generation Hispanic. Over 6 Hispanic non-citizen families in my precincts had Bush yard signs, plus the many voters, of course.
I've been politically active on the immigration issue since 1961, attending both pro and anti meetings and seminars and training sessions. I think I have as good a handle on Illinois immigration as anyone. I don't claim first hand knowledge of AZ or CA.

At the local supermarket in Hanover Pk the #1 user of foodstamps, WIC, etc is white women. #2 is white men. Then Blacks. Then native born of Hispanic heritage, mostly Puerto Rican, not of immigrant ancestry. Eligible immigrants are last. I'm the guy that chooses to stand in the slowest line and observe others in all the lines. I'm the guy who speaks up to shame the foodstamp/WIC user.

Yes. There are some problems. Utopia is still out of reach. But the sky is not falling. Immigrants are not one of the four horsemen.

328 posted on 04/13/2005 4:32:34 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob
In my precincts, all but one Hispanic voter voted for Bush in '80 and for my GOP slate in a divisive 3 way race with 2 GOP slates and 1 Dem slate.

How many Hispanic voters were in your precinct? 2? I used to be a precinct captain in a heavily republican area during the same period. It was Phil Cranes' district. There were over 200 homes in my precinct and the rep/dem ratio of registered voters was about 70/30. Even though the democrat percentage was low that still meant numerically a lot of dem votes. Your story does not ring true given that hispanics, especially then, overwhelmingly vote democratic.

And why were you pushing Bush in 80' when Reagan, a true conservative, was on the ballot? You strike me as kind of a RINO. The kind I used to come across in the party, usually at GOP get togethers. I remember thinking back then, "what kind of republicans are this"?. Talking to a RINO was like talking to a democrat.

As a landlord I have had over 800 immigrants in my apartments in the past.

Well that explains a lot....if true.

I have found jobs for over 100 that were not my tenants, plus many that were.

You found jobs for over a 100 hispanics and then some huh. Hmm, What kind of jobs were they Spintree? Were you fronting for employers of Illegal Aliens? Sounds like it. Again, if true.

I have been part of organizing hundreds in political action on slum housing, police protection, etc.

Lost me there. It really is hard to take you seriously.

329 posted on 04/13/2005 6:22:21 PM PDT by WRhine (Is anything Treasonous these days?)
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