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That is exactly the point, "some sort of". Consequently, it is like comparing apples and oranges. This difference between the various guest worker plans is what the pubs and the dems are dueling about in Congress.

No, "some sort of" amnesty is like saying you have "some sort of" terminal cancer. Rewarding lawbreakers and criminal invaders is not an option. Never!

You want to know what, I actually support a "guest worker" plan. Not one that I've seen introduced, but a "guest worker" plan anyway. The plan I would support would be one that:

a.)puts a deadline on anyone here illegally to get out.
b.)anyone caught here illegally after that deadline will NEVER be eligible for guest worker status and will be criminally charged and deported. After that date any employer caught hiring an illegal alien will face extremely stiff penalties. Repeat offenses will result in asset seizure. The illegal aliens will deport themselves before the deadline.
c.)any guest worker applicant whose record shows that they have EVER been intercepted by Border Patrol crossing the border illegally or to have committed a single crime while in the U.S. illegally is automatically put at the back of the line
d.)any employer within the city limits of a "sanctuary city" is ineligible from participating in the guest worker program. Nor are they eligible for any sort of federal grants, assistance, or contracts.
e.)the border will be adequately secured so that future crossers can only cross at legal crossing points.
f.)all potential guest workers must apply within their country of origin and have a thorough background check by the U.S. Embassy there before entering the United States. A thorough medical examination must also take place to prevent the importation of disease.
g.)any guest workers are here for a very specific amount of time, they must have a sponsor who is legally and financially responsible for any crimes committed, unpaid health care, uninsured vehicle accidents, etc.
h.)employers must pay the going American market rate and offer the same benefits given to American employees. Wages and benefits must not be reduced to exploit the guest worker.
i.)jobs must be offered to Americans first and can only be offered to guest workers if it is proven that no qualified Americans wanted the position.
j.)all income taxes (state and federal) is automatically withheld from the guest worker's pay and Social Security and FICA must also be paid for each.
k.)like someone on probation, the guest worker must check in with an immigration officer on a regular basis and must provide at all times their place of TEMPORARY residence, their employer, copies of their pay stubs, etc.
l.)the guest worker cannot bring any family members unless they too are employed and have met all the requirements of the guest worker process. If children are allowed, and since the temporary guest worker does not pay property taxes to fund schools, the guest worker must pay all tuition and other costs associated with educating their children whether enrolled in a public or private school.
m.)all guest workers must pass an english competency test. If they cannot, they or their employer must pay for english language classes. They must pass the english competency test within a certain time period or they will be ineligible from further participation in the guest worker program and must return home.
n.)no children born to any guest workers while temporarily in the United States are automatically eligible for citizenship unless one of the parents is a citizen.
o.)if the guest worker doesn't like the plan, tough crap. This is our country, our jobs, our society, our culture, our prosperity, etc.

That's a guest worker program that I can accept. It does not reward lawbreakers, it does not provide amnesty, it makes someone responsible for the guest worker while they're here, it makes the guest worker pay their own way and not rely upon taxpayer-paid benefits. It is a "compassionate" conservative guest worker plan. There is no such thing as a conservative guest worker plan as the costs and bureaucracy involved with a guest worker plan that does not screw Americans is pretty darned high.

There can be only so many reform bills introduced. You and everybody else has an opinion as to what you think would be the "best" reform bill. Amongst the bills that have been introduced, you have to find the particular bill that is closest to what you think is best and support it. Just in case the bill that you support turns out to be un-passable, it is also advisable to pick a second bill that may not want to support but you will support just to keep a far worse bill from passing.

Far example:

It appears to me that a Tancredo type bill would be the closest to what you want and you should support it. However, if it appears that the Tancredo bill will not pass and AgJobs will, you should throw your support behind the Bush Plan to prevent AgJobs from passing.

I know you don't like the Bush Plan but it is a hell of a lot better than AgJobs.