[HitmanLV]

I agree with you and I didn't suggest it was a myth. All I am saying is that the 'nice guys/jerks' paradigm isn't productive. 'Nice guys' use it as a justification for their niceness and it assures them that even though women pass them up, they are in fact the 'better man.'

It's a horrible mindset - its a construct created to rationalize failure with women. The 'strawman' is that they pin their inadequacy on that construct to lament it, rather than take steps to change things and enjoy a good romantic relationship.

Check out my post #77 on this thread for a brief version of my position on the matter.

[hinckley buzzard]

'Nice guys' use it as a justification for their niceness and it assures them that even though women pass them up, they are in fact the 'better man.'

I can see how some adolescents might do that, since "nice" is a euphemism for socially unassertive or naive. My impression is that in the long run the real "nice guys" end up with the good women.