Posted on 04/10/2005 3:32:35 PM PDT by paltz
I learned one, and only one, lesson about women in the military.
There was this nice girl around the godforsaken post that everyone in the company was drooling over, but other than cheesy pickup lines, none had ever really interacted with her. I mostly ignored her because I was young and she was way out of my league. One day when we were out and about on liberty, I saw her upset about something standing by herself while I was looking for a place to buy beer or some such. Already topped off with minor amounts of liquid courage, I asked her what was wrong mostly as a courtesy and started talking to her. Being the only guy in the area that talked to her like a real person, she latched onto me almost immediately.
When I walked back to the rest of my guys with a case of beer under one arm and that girl under the other, well, the expression on their faces was priceless. I did not do anything with her other than make sure she had a good time that night -- I'm not that kind of guy, particularly with a girl I perceive as emotionally vulnerable like she was -- but it kind of shifted my perspective. I owned that girl at that night. It also made me a minor legend at my unit. The only difference between me and every other guy in my unit was that I actually talked to her without being a jackass, and that made all the difference. I was honest, confident (in that instance), and not a complete sleeze, and that was all that was really required other than some good timing.
That incident convinced me that any guy can "get" any girl given some basic skills and decent timing, and permanently altered my perspective. At that point it becomes a question of selecting an appropriate girl to have a relationship with, not what girl you can "get".
Hardly. The point is that looks are a minor factor in the big scheme of things. If you are hung up on looks, you have completely missed the game. Women have relationships with pool boys because their "men" aren't real men, and the metric of such things has little to do with looks. Looks may make it easier to get in the door, but they certainly don't seal the deal in my experience.
Yes, you said it better than I. Dressing well, staying in vaguely decent shape, and being well-groomed is about all that is required of a guy. In this regard, men have it far easier than women on average because these are things guys can change with a modicum of effort. Women are often judged by intrinsic characteristics that are a basic part of who they are.
Of course, the problem is that most guys 1) don't realize that these things are important, and 2) have no idea what constitutes "correcting" them. I would actually say that while a man should not listen to women on how to behave (they often give poor advice), women often give good advice on how to dress well and on how to clean yourself up to be appealing. They actually know something about this. Honestly, I learned a lot about how best to dress myself from former girlfriends, and I was more than happy to listen as it always seemed like reasonable advice that never steered me wrong.
cheers!
Mr. Jeeves' Clues for the Clueless
1) If a woman gives you advice on clothes and grooming for a date, listen very carefully to what she advises - she's probably right.
2) If a woman gives you advice on what to say on a date, ignore it. In fact, consider saying the exact opposite.
3) Forget everything your mother ever taught you about women.
4) If you have a bratty little sister, you have a huge advantage over most men: you've already learned the secrets of how to deal with beautiful women. Treat them exactly the same way as you would treat your sister.
5) Men have it easier than women in looking good enough to be acceptable to almost any woman. The requirements are pretty generic.
6) Women have it much easier than men in knowing what they need to do to attract the opposite sex. 99% of her work is done once she achieves the right look...which may not be easy, but at least the goal is clearly defined.
7) For a man, attracting women is a much more complex process requiring considerable preparation, maintaining the right attitude, and doing the correct things to keep her attracted. Unfortunately, you have to keep working at it for as long as the relationship lasts. There's never a day off.
8) For homework, watch Sean Connery as James Bond. Watch how the Bond character interacts with beautiful, powerful women. Does Bond ever shyly say anything like, "You are really pretty...if you don't already have a boyfriend, can I take you out sometime?" Wouldn't you crack up laughing if he did? So do beautiful women when you say it to them.
9) Self-confidence is everything. The self-confident man can get away with saying or doing almost anything. The man with no self-confidence gets accused of sexual harassment.
10) It's OK to make friends with married women. Never make friends with single women. You are wasting your time, and theirs. Either there is a romantic connection or there isn't, close the door and move on. Corollary for single women: Those men who you think are your friends are just waiting for the right moment to try to introduce sexuality to the relationship. Don't be shocked - but they really don't like you for your mind. ;)
Feel free to add to the list...
Bump for the day shift... ;)
LOL!!! I think you were talking to me. LOL!!!!! You are still wrong! LOL!!!!
Takes too much time.
I'm female, and I disagree with this author.
He also says don't have logical (or deep) conversations about religion and politics. Well, guess what, that is what my wife and I have been talking about since we started dating. Somewhere along the line, I realized dating girls with whom I couldn't have a meaningful conversation was a waste of time, and I decided to be myself, talk about deep subjects, and voila...engaged and married in a year.
Works for me. ;-)
Good grief, Senator - Why would I do such a thing? I like guys.
You're not old enough to remember Henny.
I know it was a joke but my reply isn't, LOL.
Who's Henny?
Post 555 was for you.
Hahaha, let's try again. Post 555 was for you.
"I take my wife everywhere, but she keeps finding her way back." - Henny Youngman
LOL - dear me - I'm getting old!
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