Posted on 04/10/2005 12:31:57 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
Queen Elizabeth II delivered some extraordinary wedding day snubs to Prince Charles and his bride Camilla Parker Bowles yesterday. Her gloomy Majesty barely cracked a smile throughout the day. She never spoke to her new daughter in law and wouldn't even look at her.
At one point, the Queen frostily turned her back on Camilla during the blessing of the couples marriage.
But the worst moments for the new Duchess of Cornwall came when it was time to take the traditional family photos on the steps of St. George's Chapel. Royal aides had expected the Queen and Prince Phillp to spend at least five minutes posing with the newlyweds.
But the queen barely managed to spare 52 seconds to stand alongside the happy couple. She did not say a word to Camilla, now the country's second highest ranking royal, but spoke to her son.
Queen: 'That all went rather well.' Charles: 'Yes.' Queen: 'We are leaving now.' Charles: 'Oh, I really want a picture of us all.'
The Queen then moved quickly to stand further away from her new daughter in law, stepping around her to stand beside Charles. It was a day of astonishing put downs for Camilla, 57, delivered by her mother in law.
One observer told us: 'If the Queen had been any quicker, the pictures would have to been done on a speed camera. She looked grumpy and frosty to the bitter end.'
There were mutterings among the female guests as the Queen broke the golden rule of weddings--upstaging the bride by wearing white. Her off white outfit was almost exactly the same color Camilla had chosen for her civil wedding.
One guest said: 'She didn't join in on any of the prayers or hymms, she looked miserable.' Then, as the congregation sang 'Love Divine,' she lowered her order of service and turned her back on Camilla--even Prince Phillip was forced to shoot her a look!
One family friend told us: 'It was tough on Camilla. It wouldn't have killed the Queen to say well done. Nobody expected her to throw her arms around the woman but she was very cold to her.'
Later, things appeared to have warmed as the Queen unexpectedly made a speech at the reception--but later than cracked a joke at Camilla's expense, appearing to compare her to a horse.
To laughter from the guests in the State Apartments, she told the newlyweds, 'Welcome to the winners enclosure!' Seconds earlier, she had told the crowd that she had an important annoucement to make and then declared who won the Grand National Horse Race.
Camilla was probably thinking that she outlasted Diana, all of Charles's other flirts, his grandmother, and she'll outlast mummy dearest too. The question is, why does she want to do so? I guess she loves the old bore.
Erm, thanks for the sharing that information. Even though it is info that anyone with a brain-stem and a few ganglions already knows. Obviously it is Charles who will be King, and obviously the words will be 'God save the King' and not 'God save the queen' (something that i never claimed would happen). Maybe you interpret things directly (and thank goodness i did not say the Queen turned beet red and the thought of Charles marrying Carmilla, because maybe then you would have shot me a post adamantly protesting my assertion that the queen was turning red in color).
Queen Elizabeth II, and Prince Philip, during a ceremonial function. Sitting on thrones. The same will be the case for Charles and Carmilla, if Charles becomes king.
When Charles becomes King (and when the country is singing 'God save the King') he will sit on a throne (as you quite correctly stated ....albeit quite unnecessarily). Carmilla will be sitting next to him during official functions (in much the same way that Prince Phillip sits next to Queen Elizabeth during official functions, even though he is not king but 'merely' Queen Elizabeth's husband). In much the same manner Carmila will be sitting next to King (if he becomes king) Charles, on a throne, even if she currently claims that she will refuse the title of queen. But whatever the title is during official functions she will sit on the throne that would normally be reserved for a queen.
Hope that clarifies things a bit for you. Just because i said Carmilla would sit on a throne does not mean tht i said the country would pledge fealty and allegiance to her, nor would they start singing 'God bless the Queen' since she would not be the ruling monarch. It would be Charles, and unless drastic events happened to him he is still male.
and the thought = at the thought
So they went the anti-monarchy route. At some points I was wondering if ED was watching the FR live converation threads...
Prince Philip has had many affairs, including one of eighteen years duration with Princess Alexandra - the Queen's cousin.
The only thing the Queen could hope to do is live as long as her mom.
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Well, to be precise that is not the only thing she could do. (Donning tinfoil hat now) ...She could arrange for either Charles or Camilla to have some sort of untimely accident.
Maybe Camilla feels she's getting some vindication, or payback, for her great-grandmother Alice Keppel, who never had a chance of getting the top spot with Edward VII.
Long life and happiness to them both.
It sounds, from other posts, like the crest belonged to Diana in her capacity as his wife. When they were divorced, she no longer was Princess of Wales. It seems similar to when John and Jane Smith get divorced here... tecnically, ex-wife can remain Mrs. Jane Smith, but she is no longer Mrs. John Smith. The crest did not, I'm sure, become Diana's personal crest.
LOL!!
Crikees, those damn bleedin' bloody bells! John Donne! Why'd 'e 'ave to pay for them bleedin' bells to continue ta ring?! The bloody sound 'as been ringin' in me ears since the bloody day I was birthed!
FMCDH(BITS)
Donning dual-layer tinfoil hat with anti-ESP capabilities: Yep, that is always possible.
"My Godfather is my Step-Father." Is this not a made for Jerry Springer episode?
Yes, the way it was reported, Diana wanted to back out after learning about Camilla, but her family told her, "too late, your face is already on the tea towels," i.e., the souvenirs. What a shame they didn't support her then... how much happier a lot of people might have been.
I say old boy.........steady on there!! Are you sure?
This doesn't amount to anything more than tabloid gossip but for what it's worth, I was sitting in a waiting room one day and picked up some trashy magazine that was sitting on the table nearby. Amongst the things which I learnt while reading it was that Zsa Zsa Gabor claimed that Prince Philip had once made a pass at her but she turned him down because she found him to be "..........a most unattractive man."
Isn't that the truth. They are as much to blame as the Royals. They wanted the fame and publicity at the expense of a young girl's life.
Oh. Well, it could have been a little larger so that it showed up a little better and still have been modest.
Okay, but several people here have said that Camilla did wear white. Dove gray is better, but I don't think she should have attended, period.
With perhaps one exception.
[Victoria] was a widow of 42 with nine children when Albert died. And since she blamed her son and heir for his death -- the prince consort had come back ill from clearing up an indiscretion of Albert Edwards [later Edward VII] at Cambridge -- she did not hesitate to vent her loneliness upon him. It quite irritates me to see him in the room, she startled Lord Clarendon by saying. The breach was never really healed. The Hanoverians -- and in this, at least, she was a Hanoverian -- were never able to get on terms with their heirs.-- Edgar Trevor Williams, Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1966.
Oh, my goodness. That is bad. She must have loved her husband very much.
>>>The crest did not, I'm sure, become Diana's personal crest.>>>
No, it is a title crest, and Diana is no longer the Princess of Wales and Camilla is. The whole issue is that she was SUPPOSED to be "Duchess of Cornwall", but her wearing that pin so soon after marrying him is a thumb her nose at Diana and also goes to show she is a liar.
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