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A Pessah sacrifice in Jerusalem
Jerusalem Post ^ | Apr. 8, 2005 | Mati Wagner

Posted on 04/08/2005 9:46:25 AM PDT by Alouette

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1 posted on 04/08/2005 9:46:25 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 04/08/2005 9:46:47 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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Thought about sacrificing a paschal lamb this year? Many of the hundreds – perhaps more than a thousand including the women – who gathered Thursday night at the Western Wall to march a circle around the Temple Mount believe it can become a reality – if not this year in Jerusalem, next.

Wouldn't that be something!!!

Thanks for the ping to this interesting article Alouette.

3 posted on 04/08/2005 9:53:16 AM PDT by lupie
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4 posted on 04/08/2005 10:07:48 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Bump Annie.. interesting article


5 posted on 04/08/2005 10:12:02 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: lupie
Wouldn't that be something!!!

Yeah it would be "something" alright.

An defunct old testament ritual being performed as another tactic in fruitless battle between two religions misguidedly trapped in the old covenant.

Meanwhile certain scriputrally/spiritually challenged evangelicals will view this disaster and say "isn't that just lovely".

6 posted on 04/08/2005 10:22:08 AM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: Alouette

By what authority does Rabbi Ba'avad have the right to speak on behalf of "every Jew"? Was there a vote that I missed? Or perhaps the Lord Himself told Ba'avad that he was in charge (although He apparently neglected to inform anyone else on this decision). Now, I can only claim to speak for myself, but this particular Jew has ZERO interest in the restoration of animal sacrifices. I'll stick to the customs of the last 2000 years and just go to shul on Yom Kippur, thank you very much.


7 posted on 04/08/2005 10:24:00 AM PDT by Natty Boh
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Why can't a lamb be sacrificed at one's home? Abraham and Jacob sacrificed wherever they saw fit to do so. As long as it's made of earth or un-hewn stones, a sacrificial altar can be anywhere, can't it?..........


8 posted on 04/08/2005 10:30:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Entrepreneurs find a need and fill it. Politicians create a need and fill it........)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 04/08/2005 10:31:41 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: AAABEST
I hope you're prepared to take up your "defunct old testament ritual" objections with the "Prince" who'll be offering sacrifices in the millennial temple as revealed to Ezekiel. He might not set a place for you at the table.

Noah's flood wasn't pleasant either, but perhaps you regard that as figurative and allegorical along with the millennial kingdom and acharit ha yamim.

10 posted on 04/08/2005 10:44:45 AM PDT by yatros from flatwater
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To: Red Badger
Abraham and Jacob sacrificed wherever they saw fit to do so. As long as it's made of earth or un-hewn stones, a sacrificial altar can be anywhere, can't it?..........

After the Temple was built, sacrifices could not be brought anywhere else. However the Passover sacrifice could be made anywhere within the city of Jerusalem.

After the Temple was destroyed, the rabbis declared that prayers should take the place of sacrifices.

Over the past several years, some rabbis have decided that the Passover sacrifices may resume. This is problematic because even if some Jews bring it, then everyone is required to bring it.

11 posted on 04/08/2005 10:50:28 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Natty Boh
I'll stick to the customs of the last 2000 years and just go to shul on Yom Kippur

According to the customs of the last 2000 years, Jews attend shul more frequently than once a year.

12 posted on 04/08/2005 10:51:56 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Alouette

"According to the customs of the last 2000 years, Jews attend shul more frequently than once a year".

They sure do, and not single time do they ritually slaughter a single animal (unless you count the mounds of lox that are consumed at the Men's Club on Sundays). But the modern Yom Kippur service replaces the whole animal sacrifice thing and achieves the same atonement for sins deal, which was why I mentioned it.


13 posted on 04/08/2005 11:01:58 AM PDT by Natty Boh
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To: Alouette

It would present a huge problem. There are now literally millions more Jews than there ever were in Isreal in the Temple's time. If they were to all be required to bring a sacrificial lamb to the City, then the logistics alone would be inconcievable. The smokes would cover the entire city (would smell really good, though). The lambs would have to already be there for the event because of quarantine of importation animals. I can imagine the day of major sacrifices in the ancient days were extremely packed with people, animals and continuous flow of blood and scarificial smoke. I couldn't even begin to imagine the chaos of trying to resume sacrifices in today's political climate. PETA would go berserk. The VEGANS would be up in arms. The PA would be baffeled.......


14 posted on 04/08/2005 11:02:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Entrepreneurs find a need and fill it. Politicians create a need and fill it........)
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To: Alouette

Isn't the Pesach sacrifice on the order of a peace offering, and meant to be consumed by the offerer's family and guests; in reality, a sanctified feast?


15 posted on 04/08/2005 11:03:39 AM PDT by yatros from flatwater
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To: Natty Boh
the modern Yom Kippur service replaces the whole animal sacrifice thing

Technically the modern Yom Kippur service replaces the Yom Kippur sacrifice. The modern Shacharis, Minchah and Maariv services replace the daily sacrifices, and so forth.

You're just a slacker. ;)

16 posted on 04/08/2005 11:09:13 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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Bashanah hazo't biYrushalayim habenuyah!
17 posted on 04/08/2005 11:16:41 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayivra' 'Eloqim 'et Ha'Adam betzalmo, betzelem 'Eloqim bara' 'oto; zakhar uneqevah bara' 'otam.)
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To: Alouette

If I weren't a slacker, would I be posting to FR in the middle of the working day?


18 posted on 04/08/2005 11:21:56 AM PDT by Natty Boh
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To: yatros from flatwater
I hope you're prepared to take up your "defunct old testament ritual" objections with the "Prince" who'll be offering sacrifices in the millennial temple as revealed to Ezekiel. He might not set a place for you at the table.

Given the fact that He's the second person of the Triune God, He can do whatever it is that pleases Him, including the creation of a new and everlasting convenant - which IMO is the only hope for the insane asylum known as the Middle East, both in a spiritual and temporal sense.

Putting religion aside for a moment, does anyone believe that this sort of nonsense (from both sides) is productive or logical?

19 posted on 04/08/2005 11:22:21 AM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: yatros from flatwater; AAABEST
I hope you're prepared to take up your "defunct old testament ritual" objections with the "Prince" who'll be offering sacrifices in the millennial temple as revealed to Ezekiel. He might not set a place for you at the table.

Noah's flood wasn't pleasant either, but perhaps you regard that as figurative and allegorical along with the millennial kingdom and acharit ha yamim.

You're wasting your time. AAABEST's attitude towards the "defunct old testament ritual" is illustrative of the traditional Catholic attitude towards the entire Hebrew Bible. Everything's an allegory and nothing's to be taken literally (and of course, all the prophecies about Israel restored and the Temple rebuilt are "spiritualized" into a "prophecy" about the church!).

No wonder the Catholic Church so promotes evolutionism and higher criticism.

But don't worry. AAABEST's church and all the liturgical supercessionist churches are collapsing in liberalism. Meanwhile, I suggest he simply stay off of threads that disturb him.

20 posted on 04/08/2005 11:23:15 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayivra' 'Eloqim 'et Ha'Adam betzalmo, betzelem 'Eloqim bara' 'oto; zakhar uneqevah bara' 'otam.)
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