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POPE'S BURIAL ENDS THE LULL -- STORM COMING
Catholic League ^ | 4-8-05 | William Donohue

Posted on 04/08/2005 9:28:07 AM PDT by Dancing Jane

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To: BriarBey

Hm. Not sure the points you're making.

I guess what I'm saying is that it needn't be EITHER faith OR religion. It can be BOTH faith AND "religion." Again, it's important to define that term -- don't define it as a series of routines or rituals or behaviors that one does in order to gain favor with God. THAT is "legalism." Instead, Scripture helps us understand what "pure religion" is:

"Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, and the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world" (James 1:27).

The point you're making, I believe, is a good one: that it's the HEART that has "faith" and the ACTIONS that express "religion," and that worshiping the Lord with your HEART is God's will, rather than merely "doing" religious things. But my point is that Scripture indeed does not portray all "religion" as bad (though "legalism" or "religiosity" IS bad).

Mine is often a BOTH-AND world, rather than merely an EITHER-OR world....


61 posted on 04/10/2005 10:52:36 AM PDT by Theo
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To: nmh
I am FOR the war in Iraq. JP2 was AGAINST it. I find HIS position to be one of supporting EVIL since he was AGAINST the war. JP2 would rather have had millions of more people tortured and murdered since that is what would CONTINUE to happen if the U.S. and Blair had not STOPPED IT.

Just for the record, I heard Peter Robinson (former speechwriter for Ronald Reagan -- Robinson wrote the "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" speech) say that he could NOT find any speeches or writings by John Paul II where the Pope condemned the war in Iraq.

I don't know if Robinson is correct. But he did say that on the Laura Ingraham show a few days ago.

I think it's possible we've been duped by the media about JPII's stance on Iraq.

62 posted on 04/10/2005 1:38:15 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: NittanyLion; TomB
this nitwit has been all over the Catholic threads deliberately distorting and lying about all things Catholic.

Take a look at his/her posts. Sometimes I think he/she is a troll trying to start something with really weird posts.

63 posted on 04/10/2005 10:15:38 PM PDT by rdl6989
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