Posted on 04/08/2005 6:03:35 AM PDT by NYer
The funeral is indeed a learning experience...even for this lapsed Catholic. A lot of traditions I had forgotten about or simply did not know.
It was a very moving funeral. I loved the Cardinal's homily. It brought tears to my eyes. I loved the Latin Mass, the Latin Hymns, and I especially loved hearing the Roman Canon in Latin
Ummmnnhhh....
Anyone else notice the LATIN EMPHASIS in this funeral?
I agree it was very moving. For me it reinforced the sameness of the world in all of this, everything done during Eucharist were exactly like it is done down the street as I am sure it is done everywhere in the World. Also that spontaneous cheering before the final prayer was awesome and brought tears to my eyes.
Wonder if all that Latin stuff, including the Introit/Requiem and the Communio, will have any effect on the US Philistine community?
I remember when I had first heard about his passing, and not being Catholic it suprised me that I reacted with willing tears and prayer. His funeral was a sonic work of art, being that I was on the road and could only catch it on XM ... So long, Holy Father, and may God embrace you into His loving arms.
This is THE Mass that has been said at the Vatican for years. Most of it is in Latin, except for the Readings, the Gospel (Italian), and the Intercessory prayers (multi-national). Those who watch the Daily Mass on EWTN, would feel very comfortable with the liturgy offered up today.
He's biting off one of Condi's fingers. Check the chili.
Magnificent photo. Thank you for sharing.
Wonder what "W" is thinking when this picture was taken?
Pope John Paul II's coffin is carried away from St. Peter's Square after the funeral service on its way to the grottos beneath St. Peter's Basilica, at the Vatican, Friday, April 8, 2005.
At the top of the stairs, the pallbearers turned the coffin one last time to face the people gathered. That was when I truly lost it.
Thank you for your prayers! He truly embraced all of humanity from the newborn child to the elderly cripple. The constant stream of people who thronged to Rome to say their farewells, is testimony to this man.
In fact, I am crying while I am typing this. Certainly there is something lacking in my life that isn't being addressed by the Pauline Rite I so often defend.
This funeral Mass was like a breath of the Holy Spirit breathing upon an almost dead ember; a spark of memory in my soul; and it reminds me of my home in the Latin Rite. I want to be home. Until today, I didn't realize I was lost.
I'd give anything if tomorrow I could be present at a Mass celebrated according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I'd give anything to be home.
Sadly, there isn't one in my area. Maybe I am doomed to wander.
"Today we bury his remains in the earth as a seed of immortality our hearts are full of sadness, yet at the same time of joyful hope and profound gratitude," Ratzinger said.
1 Corinthians 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Ummmnhhh--why don't you ask your pastor to do the NO in Latin once a month?
As to the singing--there must be a college or U around there with a music program, and you'd be surprised how many of those profs are ITCHING to do "old stuff."
FReepmail me if you need some ideas on resources; they are very easy to come by.
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
Wo, wo, wo ist ein Sieg???
The 'turning point' of the entire Brahms Requiem.
After that question/climax, the chorus and orchestra launch into a C-major Fugue on verse 57 (C-major is the key of affirmation and certitude.)
"Great, now our flight will be delayed while Condi goes through decontamination."
Forgive an agnostic's ignorance, but I've never been able to grasp the significance of the mass being said in Latin. Why is it appealing to listen to mass in a language one can't understand? Wouldn't it make more sense to be able to understand the words? I know I'm missing something, which is why I ask.
Not many people in their 80's could draw so many youth to a funeral.
Latin is the universal language and the official language of the Church. It is permissable always to use Latin as the language for mass.
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