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To: PleaseNoMore
From the Gospel according to Abe, in The Gettysburg Address:

“... this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

It is dismaying how many supposedly conservative people quote Abe Lincoln. This is a fellow who destroyed the South, trampled states rights, instituted a draft and expanded government.

Let's heretofore vow to restrict our presidential quotations to Washington, Reagan and GW Bush

40 posted on 04/07/2005 6:57:35 PM PDT by Teplukin
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To: Teplukin
"...destroyed the South..." Saved the Union.

"...trampled states rights..." That had been abrogated by Dhimmicrats, working as proponents of a vile institution (the more things change...), who chose to use political power to first attempt to expand the institution, then chose to render asunder the fabric of the land and the people in their persistance. They therefore had to be - and Were!!! - stopped.

Two points for thee to ponder: we can take this to one of many Civil War threads, and finally a question: if the South was destroyed as you say, then why is our conservative heart - perhaps even as the current struggle for our Nation's soul plays out in the coming days - found to be beating strongest in the South? I don't know how you may respond, but for my part, it seems that something "destroyed" could not then be alive, much less have enough vitality to act as the bulwark (within the busom of its people) of successfully fending off this latest threat to our Constitution.

For BillyBob - excellent speech. I've missed your thoughts here on Freep. God Bless.

92 posted on 04/08/2005 5:24:16 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: Teplukin
Let's heretofore vow to restrict our presidential quotations to Washington, Reagan and GW Bush.

Let's not and say we didn't.

The, uh..."state's right" in question in 1861 was no less an evil than abortion or starving invalids to death. Slavery is kind of unconstitutional. Once the South seceded, there was no avoiding the remedy that "every drop of blood drawn by the whip would be paid for with a drop drawn by the sword" (I paraphrase.)

I'm from Goldsboro, NC. The South will save this country in the 21st century, but let's face it -- we nearly killed it in the 19th.

185 posted on 04/12/2005 3:02:05 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Teplukin

You forgot Saved the Union...


189 posted on 04/13/2005 1:05:41 PM PDT by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel) (Scientology must be stopped from murdering disabled people)
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