Congressman Billybob's Speech at Today's March for Justice II

Special to FreeRepublic | 04/07/05 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

[Mudboy Slim]

LOL...MUD

[nmh]

What a treat for the eyes and mind.

The BEST thread I've read in a long time.

[SlightOfTongue]

Nice to meet you, my FRiend...MUD

Same to you, pal. Hope you had a nice freeper day at the rally. It would seem that everybody did that I saw.

My only complaint (and my daughter's) was the back-pack length hike through the senate offices, the basement, the elevators and all, just to hand-deliver those letters. Thought we might get lost and need a guide to get back to Union Station!

Being of some Cherokee descent, at one point I thought it might be wise to drop some torn pieces of paper along the way, since there were no branches to break or rocks to make trail markings.

LOL

[Mudboy Slim]

I had a great day...then again, I always have a great time when I get to hook up with the DeeCee FReepers!!

"Being of some Cherokee descent..."

Hey, my brother...actually, I am one-sixteenth Native American and am planning on grilling my grandmother this summer regarding more details on the Indiana tribe that spawned my great-great grandfather!!

That's a branch of our family tree that I hope to unearth fer the good of my family's offspring.

FReegards...MUD

[Zhangliqun]

Let's heretofore vow to restrict our presidential quotations to Washington, Reagan and GW Bush.

Let's not and say we didn't.

The, uh..."state's right" in question in 1861 was no less an evil than abortion or starving invalids to death. Slavery is kind of unconstitutional. Once the South seceded, there was no avoiding the remedy that "every drop of blood drawn by the whip would be paid for with a drop drawn by the sword" (I paraphrase.)

I'm from Goldsboro, NC. The South will save this country in the 21st century, but let's face it -- we nearly killed it in the 19th.

[Teplukin]

The, uh..."state's right" in question in 1861 was no less an evil than abortion or starving invalids to death. Slavery is kind of unconstitutional. Once the South seceded, there was no avoiding the remedy that "every drop of blood drawn by the whip would be paid for with a drop drawn by the sword" (I paraphrase

The South was willing to listen to reason. It is entirely possible that they would have acceded to an end of slavery the same way it ended in the British West Indies - the gov't declared it illegal & compensated slaveowners for their financial losses.

Regrettable, Northern liberals forced war was upon a proud, noble & independent citizenry.

It led to the destruction of Southern Agriculture, creation of the KKK, thousands of deaths, and an enlarged federal government.

Sorry, but that war was another bit of liberal social engineering run amok. And a war that both President Reagan & President GW Bush would have avoided

[Left Coast Refugee]

I would agree with Congressman BillyBob wholeheartedly, if the GOP controlled Congress would quit legislating beyond their enumerated powers within the Constitution as well! It is difficult to argue that the Judiciary has abandoned the Constitution, when the Legislature has done the same thing. Hypocrisy is the problem here (as it is for both parties). Both parties tend to look towards the Constitution when it suits their needs, and away from it when it doesn't.

[Zhangliqun]

The South was willing to listen to reason. It is entirely possible that they would have acceded to an end of slavery the same way it ended in the British West Indies - the gov't declared it illegal & compensated slaveowners for their financial losses.

It's also more likely that they wouldn't have done so. This to me sounds more like liberal capitulation, like giving clean needles to drug addicts to avoid spreading AIDS. The idea of paying someone to stop engaging in crimes against humanity (and slavery qualifies) which the very Bible they regularly quoted told them was wrong is sickening. They should have had the good moral sense to end it on their own -- with or without the liberal government subsidy you think would have made them see the light.

The idea that the Civil War "created" the KKK also sounds liberalesque -- as when today lefty weenies wring their hands and ask how many new terrorists were created by the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The idea that the South had to be paid to end slavery and not give birth to the KKK implies that Southerners either didn't know any better or were just flat out inherently immoral. As a Southerner I resent and reject that notion. We knew better -- "the law of God is written on every man's heart" and all that. But we were too proud to admit our sin and instead compounded it by couching it in euphemistic legalisms like "state's rights". So God hardened our hearts like Pharaoh (so it would be over with sooner) and 600,000 men had to die as a result.

[Edgerunner]

You forgot Saved the Union...

[Conservative Goddess]

This is generally a ping to this thread and an AMEN!!!! to the following words, lifted from this and previous posts in the thread......

Thomas Paine

THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but "to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER" and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.

It occurs to me that the Internet, and more specifically this website, has become a colonial tavern. It was in the taverns that our founding fathers came together with their contemporaries and neighbors to discuss the issues of the day to hone their debates and refine their political perspectives. We lost that intimacy between community leaders and "yeomen" probably about the time the radio was introduced. The Internet is bringing us back together and I swear I see it beginning to make a difference.

I'll drink to that!

[Conservative Goddess]

Thank You Sir! You are obviously a gentleman and a scholar.

My best,

[Badray]

He thought y'all might be interested in reading this.

He was right. EXCELLENT!

[Badray]

No one wants to hear that the entire constitution needs to be burned and then rebuilt from the ground up, but that is what needs to happen.

Do you really find a problem with the document itself, or the lack of character of those we entrusted it to and the will of the people to demand better?

As Adams said, (paraquoting) the Constitution was intended for virtuous men and was wholly unsuited for the governence of any other. Jefferson expected a revolt of sorts every twenty years or so to keep the government in check.

No stricture in that document can bind the hands or will of men willing to subvert it when the people itself don't demand it.

[Badray]

You forgot Saved the Union...

And you forgot: Killed the Republic.

[johnb838]

I think that things have gone so far and that the constitution we have now has been so badly redefined to say things that it does not say, and mean things that it does not mean, that it would be nigh impossible to go back and reclaim it.

Or at least that's how I felt the day I wrote that post. This morning I'm not so sure why you couldn't start overturning reams of law that were not constitutionally based, with the same vigor with which the leftists instituted them.

[hattend]

BTTT

[Helms]

Postmodern Roaming Gnome

Debunking Leftist Mythology

Myth #1 - All Morality is Relative and Truth is a Social Construct to be Deconstructed

[T'wit]

Belated greetings, Felicity! His Lordship, the honorable Billybob, outdoes himself with this splendid homily! I am thinking of sending the whole thing to a renegade lawyer in my family (at the risk of a rupture of family relations :-) )

[Congressman Billybob]

Good morning, my friend.

My experience is that ALL lawyers are renegades. So, fire away with any copies. And let me know the reaction. Just yesterday I got a call from a Circuit Court judge who is planning to run for Chief Justice of the NC Supreme Court. He liked the speech a whole bunch.

John / Billybob

[T'wit]

I am the grandson and son of lawyers. They were not renegades, they were patent attorneys. I am the brother of another patent attorney -- not so sure about him! :-) I am the uncle and cousin of patent attorneys, but I hardly ever hear from them so it doesn't matter. And, I am the relative of a renegade who works within the judicial branch and who belabors me with such withering arguments as, the Constitution needs to evolve because, see, in the original language, slaves counted as 3/5 of a person. (For this they go to law school?) (The moral retort to this is that slaves, in the eyes of God, are 5/5 of a person but lawyers seldom rise above 2/5 of a person.)

I can prove that this particular relative is a renegade as follows. Both he and Ann Coulter went through a hush-hush conservative school in Washington, D.C. My relative was not one little bit improved by it, whereas Ann learned enough vitriol to keep us all happy for years and years.