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To: Republican in CA

No. You aren't using Merriam-Webster's definition of worship. You aren't using the English language's definition of worship. I really don't know what to tell you other than that the Catholic church does not worship Mary. We do not see her as a 'god' or above God. She is a person to be respected. She is a person to be looked up to. But she is only a person. She is not divine. We do not pray to her to save us, we ask HER to pray FOR us. Just look at the prayers. In the Hail Mary, it says "Holy Mary, mother of God, PRAY FOR US SINNERS, now and at the hour of our death." In the Our Father, it says "give us this day our daily bread, and FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil." If you can not see the difference in this then you are being blinded by your misguided preconceived notions of what Catholicism is.


490 posted on 04/07/2005 7:32:51 PM PDT by jamesissmall218
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To: jamesissmall218
In the Hail Mary, it says "Holy Mary, mother of God, PRAY FOR US SINNERS, now and at the hour of our death."

She would have to be omniscient and omnipresent, or something awfully close to that, in order to deliver on such expectations.

496 posted on 04/07/2005 9:48:28 PM PDT by The Red Zone ( Florida, the sun-shame state and Georgia, the rotten peach.)
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To: jamesissmall218

This is getting tiresome. I'm using a definition from Webster's New World dictionary, and if your dictionary only shows the one definition you've stated, you need to get a "thicker," more complete dictionary.

Secondly, I've already had this conversation with Catholics. I was raised around Catholics (predominantly Filipino and Mexican-American) and I attended mass as a child with them.

I think what you keep repeating is the Catechism of the Church, but unfortunately, it's not necessarily the belief system of all Catholics that I have known.


529 posted on 04/08/2005 9:18:17 AM PDT by Republican in CA
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To: jamesissmall218

This is getting tiresome. I'm using a definition from Webster's New World dictionary, and if your dictionary only shows the one definition you've stated, you need to get a "thicker," more complete dictionary.

Secondly, I've already had this conversation with Catholics. I was raised around Catholics (predominantly Filipino and Mexican-American) and I attended mass as a child with them.

I think what you keep repeating is the Catechism of the Church, but unfortunately, it's not necessarily the belief system of all Catholics that I have known.


530 posted on 04/08/2005 9:19:19 AM PDT by Republican in CA
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