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Text of Pope's Last Will and Testament
Associated Press ^ | April 7, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/07/2005 8:55:52 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper

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To: MineralMan

Shhh, you're spreading common sense--can't have that in an endless tirade of Catholic-bashing :)


81 posted on 04/07/2005 9:54:33 AM PDT by Okies love Dubya 2 (I came looking for you, and now you come looking for me. I thank you." Pope John Paul II)
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To: MineralMan

It is unfortunate that many protestants think Catholics are not Christians, which is upsurd. After all Catholism is the oldest Christian religion


82 posted on 04/07/2005 9:54:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Daisy4
The words of Jesus: "Mother, behold your son. Son, behold your mother..."

I do not pray to a dead person, but to Jesus.

Who was Jesus praying with at the Transfiguration but a couple of dead people? (Moses and Elijah)

I don't ask for anything in the name of Mary. I ask for her to pray for me and to receive for me the blessings of her Son. She dispenses graces, but all graces come from Christ.

Mary is dead, just like everyone else who will die.

Does not compute. Who could be more alive than those who have life eternal?

83 posted on 04/07/2005 9:55:02 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Dog Gone

"sure isn't much of a will".


I know, I thought for sure he'd leave me
the big ring.


84 posted on 04/07/2005 9:55:08 AM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: MineralMan

You know what? For an atheist, you are perty darned good when discussing topics of religion, lol. I don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing! LOL.


85 posted on 04/07/2005 9:55:40 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: LibertyRocks

Was Jesus Mary's male clone? Did he have any non-Mary genetic material in him?


86 posted on 04/07/2005 9:55:40 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Kaslin

What he wrote in 2000, as far as I have seen, was a question as to how long God would have him serve. It didn't mention the word resignation, and I wonder if the press isn't manufacturing a story.


87 posted on 04/07/2005 9:56:43 AM PDT by Williams
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To: GraniteStateConservative

See Post 68 for an explanation.


88 posted on 04/07/2005 9:56:50 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Kaslin

Wasn't it Luther who broke away from the Catholic Church?


89 posted on 04/07/2005 9:56:54 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: Kaslin
It is unfortunate that many protestants think Catholics are not Christians, which is upsurd. After all Catholism is the oldest Christian religion.

You might have a hard time convincing the Orthodox of that, especially the Antiochian Church.

90 posted on 04/07/2005 9:57:28 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Everything that I've written on it for the past two years is GONE!)
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To: willyboyishere

Hardy-har-har-har.
They're destroyed upon the death of each Pope.


91 posted on 04/07/2005 9:57:29 AM PDT by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

But who got the funny hats?


92 posted on 04/07/2005 9:57:57 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Rutles4Ever
Mary was sinless. It's beyond your comprehension, I understand, but it's utterly, totally scriptural, whether you like it or not...

Okay, here goes nothing. I have been on FR on several years, but have never typed a word on one of these Catholic v/s Protestant threads. Can you please give me chapter and verse in the Bible where it says Mary was sinless, as you claim? Since it's beyond our comprehension, as you say, please enlighten us. Thank you.

93 posted on 04/07/2005 9:59:03 AM PDT by RonPaulLives (Never trust anything ending in "u." For example, "DU," "EU," "I love you")
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To: PetroniusMaximus
False worship, the true worship of God and Marian veneration all look exactly the same from the outside - the manin thing that differs is the object of worship.

There's no objective difference between Protestant worship of God and Catholic Marian veneration, I'll grant.

That's not because there's something wrong with Marian veneration, that's because Protestant worship is not true worship of God. Singing pretty songs and hearing a speech isn't worship. It might be a nice teaching opportunity, but worship, it isn't. Authentic worship requires sacrifice, and a priesthood, and the only sacrifice that matters is Calvary. Your Protestant creeds expressly deny that you do any such thing: you stand convicted by your own words.

The problem is not that Catholics venerate Mary. The problem is that you don't really worship God, and don't really know what the true worship of God looks like.

95 posted on 04/07/2005 9:59:37 AM PDT by Campion
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To: MineralMan
Why not leave them to their own prayers and deal just with your prayers?

That seems a reasonable thing to do.

We've been killing each other over religion for thousands of years. We're not going to stop now just because it's reasonable.

96 posted on 04/07/2005 10:00:01 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Williams
I am reading all the stories saying the Pope had considered resigning. Maybe, but I can't find it in the texts.

Me, too. I guess it was just Associated Press B.S. as usual. The AP never did quote a single passage that justifed their "considered resigning" headline.

97 posted on 04/07/2005 10:00:12 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- Terror of the Terrorists. John Paul II -- Terror of the Communists.)
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To: onyx

If you go to the news site, the sections of the testament goes through 2000...


98 posted on 04/07/2005 10:00:18 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Thank you for that. Can you imagine what would happen if the Catholics on this board started proclaiming that all who did not follow the Catholic Church's teaching to the letter were going to hell? Or if we started shouting that Protestants weren't really Christians? Or if we talked about getting 'satanic chills' from reading works by, say Billy Graham? The ignorance of some people is simply astounding.


99 posted on 04/07/2005 10:00:57 AM PDT by jamesissmall218
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To: Knitting A Conundrum


Yes, thanks for thinking of me.
I am reading it now.


100 posted on 04/07/2005 10:01:40 AM PDT by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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