Posted on 04/06/2005 5:03:58 AM PDT by johnny7
She presented with a very stiff neck (see Humana Hospital Release for Terri Schiavo-02/25/90 to 05/09/90 and stiff body.)
Not surprising.
She was defibrillated several times at home and was severely hypotensive.
She was completely unresponsive with decerebrating and generalized tonic clonic seizure activity.
CAT scan of the brainn taht was done was negative for any acute event.
Serial EKG's revealed no evidence of myocardial infarction.
Initial EEG revealed abnormal elctroencephalogram indicative of generalized suppression ad slowing of the activity uniformly noted without any significant hemispheric electrolization cosistet with diffuse encephalopathy.Hmmm.
Thought the PROBLEM was she was seeing a gyn for irregular mensus.
Dre Hammersfahr said she was RESPONDING to THERAPY so beautifully that she was able to hold herself up between two parallel bars in therapy.....
WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO HER....MICHAEL?
She presented with a very stiff neck (see Humana Hospital Release for Terri Schiavo-02/25/90 to 05/09/90 and stiff body.)
Not surprising.
She was defibrillated several times at home and was severely hypotensive.
She was completely unresponsive with decerebrating and generalized tonic clonic seizure activity.
CAT scan of the brainn taht was done was negative for any acute event.
Serial EKG's revealed no evidence of myocardial infarction.
Initial EEG revealed abnormal elctroencephalogram indicative of generalized suppression ad slowing of the activity uniformly noted without any significant hemispheric electrolization cosistet with diffuse encephalopathy.
Her ONLY significant recent hisotry was that she was being treated by a GYN for a vaginal infection with a local cream which the consulting gyn at HUMANA, Dr. Meena Jain, recommended changing from cream to a Eetadine douche and to start Terri on the medicine, FLAGYL, intraveniously, for the infection ( commonly used for a very common STD!)
Hmmm.
Thought the PROBLEM was she was seeing a gyn for irregular mensus.
Dre Hammersfahr said she was RESPONDING to THERAPY so beautifully that she was able to hold herself up between two parallel bars in therapy.....
WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO HER....MICHAEL?
"What those people may be trying to get around is that the leading cause of injury and death among young women is -- their husbands (or boy friends). It is domestic violence. "
The leading cause of death for young women is "unintentional injuries"...you know accidents.....think drinking and driving in that number. ;-)
Followed closely by cancer and heart disease.
For women 20-30 yrs old, homicide of all types figures in only two instances out of 20 possible causes.
You gotta quit believing that NOW propaganda! LOL
http://www.cdc.gov/od/spotlight/nwhw/lcod/01all.pdf
"There is solid medical reason to suspect that Michael strangled her."
What would those "solid" reasons be?
Don't remember anyone saying the PT people had trouble.
8/22/1990 Progress Notes Dr. Baras
More flexibility in left lower leg and hip flexion but left knee is stiff. Need to repeat ___. Check on H.O. May need to consider right knee manipulation (ortho)
8/23/1990 X-Ray Report Dr. Pruit
Images taken left knee - Reason for exam - H.O. ****No fractures or dislocations, moderate amt of heterotrophic bone formation along medial aspect of the distal femur. Small amount along lateral aspect of distal femural shaft.
Your reports are all from the NEXT year when she was in a nursing home that offered SOME therapy!
Note the last entry...she showed SIGNIFICANT REGRESSION in a ONE MONTH PERIOD!
Calling Michael....hey big fella....you weren't twisting and torturing your beloved wife were ya? Behind those closed doors....preparing for a great big malpractice suit? Hmmmmmmmm
I'm glad to hear that your sister beat her eating disorder. She hasn't had an easy time of it.
Terri COULD have had an eating disorder, and MS could have lied about it in court to win the malpractice. Who knows, but it would be in the court papers.
"This is a 26 year old white female not kown to me prior to admission who was brought to the emergency and admitted to the intensive Care Unit after stabiliazation in the emergency room.
She was apparently in GOOD HEALTH and was foud by her husband on the moring of admissio on the floor with difficulty breathing and gasphing for air. {hmmmmm.}" She was unresponsive. The paramedics were cdalled and it took several minutes for resusitation She needed to be debibrillated several times at home ad was also severly hypotensive.
SHE RESPONDED IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM TO SOME EXTENT WITH Dopamine.
Examination showed decerebration and total seizure activity.
(NOTE}Her ONLY significant history was she was being treated by her gynecologist for a vaginal infection with aloxal cream. Her allergies were treated in the past with Benadryl....
There is nothistory suggestive of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, et cetera."
"NO OTHER SIGNIFICANT HISTORY WAS NOTED....."
"After potassium supplement, her potassium did increase butg stayed on a lower level , becoming normal the NEXT DAY....."
"Various cultures, including bloodand sputum were negative INITIALLY but later were positive for Staphylococcus aureus, treated with amoxicillin.....later, on 3/22/90 her sputum was p ositive for eterobarter aurogenes "{what's that?...how did she get this?)
But what disturbs me were the following quotes from her hUMANA HOSPITAL RELEASE FORM.
What disturbs me most is the fact that she may have presented an STD, as the gyn consult ( Dr.Meen Jain, called after her admittance to the Intensive Care Unit at Humana recommended the drug Flagyl (500 mg drip, intraveniously) be administered along with a Eetadine douche......Flagyl is often used to knock out one of the most common STD's going.
If Terri presented with an STD...this could most definitely have been a factor in their marriage..ie, who gave it to whom, if michael was treated for it, that would MATTER. Since terri was being treated for a vaginal problem by her own gyn before she met up with her collapse (or monster)... picture how any of us would feel if we had picked up an STD from our mate.
Secondly...it bothers me that Terri presented with an INFECTIOUS DISEASE., Dr Suksaong was consulted and ANTIBIOTICE were adjusted per her recommendation....what infectious disease did Terri have upon admittance?
EEG's and CAT scans were repeated several times to see any development of any new ?NS pathology. SHE ALSO REQUIRED BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS!
"Dr Hakki put a tracheostomy because she needed a ventilator for a long period of time."
She continued to show enterobacteria {WHY?}
"There was a problem with the NG tube (feeding tube) on 3/30/90, but it was changed and feeding resumed..."
Note....Dr Barras from the Bayfront Rehab Center was consulted ad after his evaluationn he RECOMMEDED INTENSIVE REHABILITATION ad to PUT the pATIENT i a LONG TERM REHAB CENTER such as Mediples or Hardy Memorial, which Dr. Shah (who wrote this release) and Dr. DeSousa agreed with. We felt that as the patient has SHOWN SOME IMPROVEMENT during her hospitalization....in her PHYSICAL ad METNAL STATUS some improvement was NOTED!!!!
Her insurance compay DID NOT APPROVE REHABILITATION after she was evaluated by TWO OTHER FACTILITIES.
So she went to the Progressive Care Unit. ( of the hospital)..There terri gained weight and received more intensive physical therapy and other supportive care.
Later she was moved to a skilled nursing home that had some therapy, but NOT INTENSIVE THERAPY.
Questions to you...After terri was stabilized in the emergency room she went to Humana's intensive care unit.
Various consultants were obtained whidch included:
neurologypulmonary
infectious disease and GYN consultation>
QUESTION-Terri had an infectious disease...what?
Terri saw a gyn who upped the ante on her vaginal creme to an eectadine douche and Flagyl (in an IV drip)...common STD medicine (along with other gastrointestinal uses....but this was a GYN doctor recommending it so common sense says it was for a vaginal problem)
Why was terri's sugar level elevated to the point that they had to administer MEDICATION for it? (Makes me think of the nurse in the nursing home who suspected michael of shooting terri up with insulin...because she found terri in distress, shaken, seizuring and found needle marks under her breasts and between her thighs and an INSULIN VIAL covered up in the trash can in terri's room AFTER michael had just left the room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
From the Humana release form: "Various possibilities were consnidered for the patient's event. [ In other words, for her collapse that night. ] She was STARTED on IV antibiotic Rocephin. [WHY?] AS HER BLOOD SUGAR WAS UP INITIALLY, accu-checks were obtained and COVERED with HUMULIN as needed. "[ What would cause her BLOOD SUGAR TO RISE???? ( besides michael messing with her? )
A Dr Suksanong was obtained , as an infectious disease consult,and antibiotices were adjusted per her recommendations.... {Again...WHAT infectious disease did terri have before being admitted to the hospital? )
I have a lot to learn.
Yeah, I saw that little morbidity table too, but that only talks about deaths, not injuries. I said DV is the leading cause of death and injuries among young women. That's a different, more complicated question and you have to dig deeper. I don't remember my source, but the statement holds up very well.
“Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women,” states The American Institute on Domestic Violence. “Between 3 and 4 million women are battered each year... Women ages 20-34 endure the highest rates of domestic violence.”
A Department of Justice-sponsored study put the figure higher: "...approximately 4.9 million intimate partner rapes and physical assaults are perpetrated against U.S. women annually."
A Department of Justice study reports, “The highest rates of intimate violence affected women ages 16 to 24. Women age 16 to 19 and women age 20 to 24 had nearly identical rates of intimate victimization -- about 1 violent victimization for every 50 women.** 3 in 4 intimate violence victims are between ages 20 and 39.
** This is higher than the motor vehicle injury rate given for young women of similar age, which is about 1 in 57.
The Department of Justice (which has a whole department just for domestic violence) and the American Bar Association (which has a commission on domestic violence) both state similar estimates for violence against women.
(A range is usually given because surveys find, depending on types of violence, that one-half, two-thirds, or even four-fifths of domestic attacks on women are not reported to police. Lowest estimates, based on attacks actually reported, are about one million per year.)
All sources confirm that domestic (or so-called "intimate") violence is greatest against young women, and that men are eight to ten times more violent than women in a domestic relationship.
Female DV homicides, where their relationship with their assailant is known, are put at 3,000 per year, with 3/4 of them (2,250) among younger women (20-39), along with some unknown number of additional intimate homicides in unsolved murders. For females ages 20-29, motor vehicle accidents kill about 2,000 and injure about 350,000 each year. Cancer and heart disease, the big killers in later life, are still very low among young women (20-29), with about 2,500 deaths per year for BOTH diseases combined.
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Having said all this, let's get back to the sense of things. The argument is not whether domestic violence is #1 or #2. That doesn't make one bit of difference.
We are looking for the most likely cause of Terri Schiavo's so-called "collapse." For that, we compare the rate of domestic violence -- which is by all accounts high -- and the rate of near-fatal "collapse" due to "chemical imbalance," which is extremely rare among healthy young women (if it occurs at all).
Domestic violence is thus thousands of times more likely to have caused Terri's injuries than the "low potassium" scenario -- the only alibi for the only suspect, Michael Schiavo.
For all you folks who think that asking questions constitutes a dazzling argument, you ask, "Why didn't the emergency medics and ER staff find Terri's injuries?" The ABA Commission on domestic violence has the answer for you. It took note of shockingly bad DV investigation by emergency rooms:
-- the rate of domestic violence detection by emergency room doctors is low. Abbott et al., Domestic Violence Against Women: Incidence and Prevalence in an Emergency Department Population, Journal of the American Medical Association, vol.273, no. 22, 1763, 1766 (June 1995).
-- although battered women comprise 20 - 30% of ambulatory care patients, only 1 in 20 is correctly identified as such by medical practitioners. Hyman et al., Laws Mandating Reporting of Domestic Violence: Do They Promote Patient Well-Being?, Journal of the American Medical Association, vol. 273, no. 22, 1781 (June 1995).
-- one study found that less than 3% of women visiting emergency rooms disclosed or were asked about domestic violence by a nurse or physician.
Moreover, there a well identified profile for the most likely perpetrators of intimate violence, and Michael fits its it a T.
A DOJ study concluded, "Violence perpetrated against women by intimates is often accompanied by emotionally abusive and controlling behavior. The survey found that women whose partners were jealous, controlling, or verbally abusive were significantly more likely to report being raped, physically assaulted, and/or stalked by their partners, even when other sociodemographic and relationship characteristics were controlled. Indeed, having a verbally abusive partner was the variable most likely to predict that a woman would be victimized by an intimate partner. These findings support the theory that violence perpetrated against women by intimates is often part of a systematic pattern of dominance and control.
Michael's former girl friend, Cindy Shook, in a sworn deposition, described him as mean, verbally abusive and a persistent stalker. She had to consider getting a restraining order; and to this day is frightened of him.
Friends reported that Michael was so controllng that he kept track of the odometer mileage to control Terri's use of the car. We've all discussed the sworn testimony that he flew into a rage at her the very day before her "collapse," for spending $80 to get her hair done. It rings true.
Friends, family and caregivers noted literally scores of instances of Michael's controlling -- and downright spiteful -- behavior toward Terri during her hospitalization. Just the fact that he wouldn't let her go shows that he's a control freak. He denied her treatment, he denied her needed therapies, he limited visitation, he kept her locked away in a small cheerless room for years -- wouldn't even let her sit out in the sun; he ordered that cards, flowers and religious medallions sent to her be thrown in a wastebasked by the hospice staff; he denied her holy communion, he denied her ice chips to ease her agony, and in the end, he killed her... cruelly. And then he burned her body, against her religious views.
We don't need to phone Columbo for this one.
Just a couple of comments and questions:
You wondered about the blood transfusions. On page six of the nine page Humana Hospital Release it mentions this in the top paragraph, direct quote ( full paragraph ):
" EEG's and CAT scans were repeated several times to see development of any new [this next word, the only one that seems to have been either tampered with -looks like white out, to me-I cannot decipher it but will type what it looks like with a question marke where it appears one capitalized letter is missing]?NS [ CNS-? ] pathology. She also required blood transfusions. "
Also----I can understand the picking up of bronchial or lung infections in a hospital setting, especially as a ventilator was used on her for awhile. I guess I was reading it incorrectly, upon review...she did not present this immediate.
But she did present the vaginal problem..and was being treated for it by her own gyn before her so called collapse. Since a gyn consult was called in once she was stabilized, and placed in intensive care (out of the emergency room), I suspect the Flagyl was used to eliminate the vaginal problem...along with the eetadine douce...and I still wonder if she had an STD.
Because michael is a known hothead...and if terri did receive it from him (versus her contacting it from someone), and she approached the monster about it...this could have been a very heated problem, coupled with her 80 dollar hair due which is, according to her co worker, why she was going to pretend to be asleep that night she collapsed...asleep before ms got home.
Also---in the [ direct quotes to follow from Laboratory Data, page three of Humana Hospital release form ]" Initial laboratory data revealed.....EKG showed sinus tachycardia and on-specific ST-T changes. CAT scan of the brain that was done was NEGATIVE for any acute event. "
Meaning...her CAT SCAN showed no trauma ?
I do not understand this!
Two of them were negative, on 2/25 and 2/27. Code Blue Blog discussed this at length, with Doc CBB concluding that the head trauma, whatever it was, necessarily occurred after she got to the hospital. Another CT, ?March 30?, turned sharply abnormal. Clearly we have another mystery! (My comments from memory so don't hold me to the exact dates. Read the doc's own account.)
This by no means rules out other trauma at the time of Terri's "incident" 2/25.
You need to take your own advice. Here's one for you:
http://www.missionsun.net/tcajune2004.htm
"turned sharply abnormal. Clearly we have another mystery!"
Another commentor, a doc if I recall correctly, stated that her scans made sense. When a brain is starved for oxygen it doesn't show up immediately...the cells aren't just poof gone, but over a period of time as the cells begin to die off they begin to show.
There needs to be sufficient numbers to show on the scan.
Made sense to me. :-)
Anything else is a sucker bet.
>> It's not likely we'll ever know even if she had lived.
You never know what will come to light though some other channel. I have a hunch that Michael is not the only one who knows whether he is guilty of DV.
I'm five-ten and 36, with long but slim bones. According to most actuarial charts, I should weigh 150. At 150, I look chunky. My ideal weight is closer to 130.
Restraining orders were taken out by a group of THREE NURSES in one of the nursing homes, because michael was out of control, verbally abusive to them and threatening.)
One nurse, quoted above in one of the posts on this thread, stated in her affidavit that she suspected mike of a great deal of neglect.
And yes, abuse - if you consider her condition before and just after he left the room...his standard MO was to close the door and LOCK IT for a period of 20 minutes...
Note, smartaleck, the notes taken by the neurologist who took the video tape the world is so familiar with...he COMMENTED twice about michael and his disruptions during the exam IN HIS REPORT
Michael demanded to be present during this exam, and made SURE Terri knew he was there!
The neurologist noted in his report that when Michael would speak out...terri would un-focus, go off as it were, my words- > freeze from the inside out! Michael the monster was in the room observing the entire time....in the report you can read about michael starting a very loud FOOT TAPPING VERY LOUDLY and continued it for about FIVE MINUTES!
How he must have HATED Terri.
(hmmmm... I wonder, this special little foot tapping 'thingie' he did when he was with terri to announce his horrific presence and plans to hurt her, emotionally or even physically)
(ie. the found empty insulin vial and needle tracks under her breasts and between her thighs that one nurse put in her affidavit,
oh yeah...the nurse that FOUND THAT after he left, after rushing to bring terri down from her sweating, upset, flushing, thrashing and CRYING with a tab upon her mouth -forget name-used for insulin shock-this nurse had seen such reactions before to insulin shock, at that moment in time, she behaved as an angel. And...again, in response to why such suspected ABUSE was 'never REPORTED '....IT WAS, smartaleck!
She reported her findings and actions regarding schiavo to her supervisor, called the POLICE on her own, GAVE A POLICE REPORT that evening..and guess what?
WAS FIRED THE NEXT DAY!
And don't forget the nurse, who he lost his temper with, who had, OH HORROR OF HORRORS, put a rolled up washcloth within her palms, to lesson the crippling atrohpy of her fingers, oh yeah, mikey saw that and FLIPPED OUT...CALLING IT 'THERAPY" and threatened to have her FIRED! ( This is in her affidavit ( yes...this is also in an affidavit!)
And smartaleck...did you know that one of the nurses who spoke to the schindler's fo her concerns about the cruelty michael was doing consistently
Oh yes.
There are affidavits available to read concerning the suspected and heartbreaking abusive neglect and punishment that monster laid upon terri-something apparently EASY to do when you can COMMAND who sees her and WHO DOES NOT!
Pat Anderson, the Schindler's attorney for along time before Mr. Gibbs, PLEADED with the judge to hold a hearing about michael's sociopathic treatment of the 'bitch' as he, michael apparently called Terri to a nurse who spoke to this in her affidavit, but judge greer would not have any of it.........HE DENIED EVERY EFFORT TO INVESTIGATE MICHAEL.
Once, the DCF, under Mr. LaBelle, began and investigation, which was STOPPED by michael himself who REFUSED to allow the investigators ANY ACCESS TO TERRI (did you know that he did NOT ALLOW ANY MEN IN THE ROOM OTHER THAN THE SCHINDLERS, their priest and his doctor? Have you ever, in your wildest consideration of injustice, EVER heard of a suspected 'PERP' being able to control and stop an investigation ---and come to the REALIZATION that the JUDGE would do nothing about it!
WORSE...smartaleck....the SHERIFF of pinellas County was a contributor to judge greer's campaign, he was ALSO a personal friend of judge greer, and HE HIRED MICHAEL to WORK as a NURSE in his JAIL (that is where he works) WHERE...get this.....michael's future now dead mother in law worked (she died last year at michael and jodi's house) for Sheriff Rice for SIXTEEN YEARS!
Sheriff Rice is now a florida legislator....
Too funny to think of the phone calls I made a couple of years ago to this office requesting that he look into the complaints of abuse regarding michael....NO WONDER THAT EXPERIENCE LEFT ME SO COLD...AND NO WONDER THE SCHINDLER'S NEVER GOT REMEDY FROM THE POLICE.
Worse, smartaleck, and this is documented as well................Michael Schiavo was scheduled, via the courts, to atten NO ONE but THREE SEPARATE DEPOSITIONS where he was to answer questions about his guardianship practices.
Did you know that he DID NOT ONCE ATTEND ONE OF THESE DEPOSITIONS and that greer DID NOTHING TO ENFORCE THIS?
Oh yeah, fellow FReeper, the attempts, the DESPARATE ATTEMPTS the SCHINDLERS MADE TO BRING FORTH THE POSSIBILITY THAT MICHAEL SCHIAVO WAS AN ABUSER ABSOLUTELY BREAKS ONE'S HEART!. They never once received a review or justice...and often were punished by michael with a "no visits with terri" order when he was angry with them...once, during a 53 week punishment period, terri had FIVE TEETH PULLED. Yep. Five. Maybe they needed to come out, but understand, MICHAEL DID NOT ALLOW FOR HER TEETH TO BE BRUSHED AND HE DID NOT ALLOW ANY DENTAL CHECK-UPS.
He crushed the Schindlers with all of his might, using their helpless dtr as his wedge, because they INTERRUPTED his plans to get rid of Terri fast.
A normal loving husband does not put a DO NOT RESUSITATE ORDER on his wife's nursing home chart within DAYS of getting a windfall of money from a malpractice suit...money that was to be used to rehab Terri.
He was EVEN taken to court, when he REFUSED to allow for terri to be administered anti-biotics for an infection!
Not once, BUT TWICE.
If any of us has supported our son in law for three years and he strove to get money much needed to help our dtr., promising lifetime health care for her, etc, if any of us had taken our son in law into our home during this three year period after our dtr's collapse, believing he loved her, believing what he said to his attorney and in court, AND THEN DISCOVERED AFTER HE GOT THE MONEY THAT HE WANTED HER DEAD, GONE, OUT OF THE PICTURE, ......
My guess....we would have gone CRAZY!
God BLESS the Schindlers!!! (And I know he has....their blessed Pope had their daughter upon his lips just days before he passed!)
God is awesome.
And smartaleck..excuse my passion, I am a caps jerk....guess I have my own out of control issues, this saga of injustice simply outrages me! ( As if you were unable to surmise this...lol!)
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