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To: Diamond
It may be bizarre to a Catholic, but it is a caricature of Sola Scriptura to say that the claim is that Scripture teaches everything. There is a difference between exhaustive and sufficient.

Yes, there is and I was mis-speaking or engaging in hyperbole whe I said "everything" is taught explicitly in the Bible. Thank you for the correction.

The claim, which is taught explicitly in the Bible, is that the Scripture has the ability to thoroughly equip the man of God for every good work. Included in every good work are "doctrine", "reproof", "correction", and "instruction in righteousness"

Read the verse again. It in no way says what you want it to say. It says Scripture is "useful" or "profitable" to thoroughly equip. It does not say it is sufficient.

Is believing in the doctrine of the Assumption of Mary, for example, a "good work"?

I don't know if believing anything is considered a "work."

It may syrprise you to know that the Church considers Scripture to be materially sufficient, but not formally sufficient. All of the material God revealed can be found within, but it is not always explicit. Take for example, the orthodox understanding of the nature of Christ and how He is true man and true God united in the hypostatic union.

Or the formulae describing the interworkings of the Trinity.

None of these are found explicitly in Scripture, yet they arise from studying Scripture and what is revealed in it.

SD

582 posted on 04/07/2005 10:37:51 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Read the verse again. It in no way says what you want it to say. It says Scripture is "useful" or "profitable" to thoroughly equip. It does not say it is sufficient.

First, no one says that "useful" or "profitable" mean "sufficient". Paul is saying that the man of God can be complete, capable, proficient, and qualified because he has available to him God-breathed Scriptures. The term, artios means, "fitted, complete.", or "complete, capable, proficient", "able to meet all demands" - Bauer, Arndt, Gingrich and Danker. Second: ejxartivzw means "completely outfitted, fully furnished, fully equipped, fully supplied". What else could it mean that one "is fully equipped," if not that one is sufficient for a task?

Main Entry: suf·fi·cient
Pronunciation: s&-'fi-sh&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin sufficient-, sufficiens, from present participle of sufficere
1 a : enough to meet the needs of a situation or a proposed end <sufficient provisions for a month> b : being a sufficient condition
2 archaic : QUALIFIED, COMPETENT
- suf·fi·cient·ly adverb
synonyms SUFFICIENT, ENOUGH, ADEQUATE, COMPETENT mean being what is necessary or desirable. SUFFICIENT suggests a close meeting of a need <sufficient savings>. ENOUGH is less exact in suggestion than SUFFICIENT <do you have enough food?>. ADEQUATE may imply barely meeting a requirement <the service was adequate>. COMPETENT suggests measuring up to all requirements without question or being adequately adapted to an end <had no competent notion of what was going on>.

I don't know if believing anything is considered a "work."

Therefore they said to Him, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?"
Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."
John 6:28,29

It may syrprise you to know that the Church considers Scripture to be materially sufficient, but not formally sufficient

Well, I take it that you do not subscribe to the partim-partim view. Opinions seem to vary widely within R.C. as to exactly what constitutes ‘tradition’, and I have as yet to see an infallible definition.

Cordially,

586 posted on 04/07/2005 11:58:50 AM PDT by Diamond (Qui liberatio scelestus trucido inculpatus.)
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