[GerardPH]

Buchanan strangely has been ignorant of this Pope's rampant Liberalism for years.

The plain statement to be made is: He was not great.

He presided over and encouraged the destruction of the Church he was appointed to defend.

[It's me]

Oh brother!

[Robert Drobot]

"The plain statement to be made is: He was not great. He presided over and encouraged the destruction of the Church he was appointed to defend"

Prior to JPII The Holy See always was a top down management. V2 introduced collegiality - a horizontal 'we are all equal' disastrous and dangerous management concept leaving everyone in charge and no one in charge. The reason why nothing has been done to clean up American seminaries, among other challenges to the stability of the Roman Rite Catholic Church.

The next pope had better come in the ring a warrior, less we witness the last breath of this Holy Body as controlled by pretenders dressed as shepards.