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Francis Arinze and God's Invisible Hand.
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Posted on 04/05/2005 4:38:05 AM PDT by watsonfellow

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To: watsonfellow

Although I am rooting for Mel Gibson Arinze would be a good second choice.


21 posted on 04/05/2005 8:51:04 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: The Iguana; watsonfellow; cyborg; netmilsmom; Talking_Mouse; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...
Theologically he's essentially in the John Paul II mold, right down the line - though he openly admitted that he's not the intellectual that the Holy Father was.

Thank you for sharing that amusing incident with the car.

For those who may have missed it, Cardinal Arinze appeared recently as a guest of Raymond Arroyo on EWTN. Like JPII, he is straightforward with his responses. Here are some excerpts, compliments of Lifesite.net.

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Arroyo questioned the Vatican Cardinal saying: “Last year, you were asked at a press conference whether a politician, a Catholic politician who supports abortion publicly should be permitted to the Communion rail, should be permitted to receive Communion publicly. What is your response to that?”

Cardinal Arinze responded, “The answer is clear. If a person says I am in favour of killing unborn babies whether they be four thousand or five thousand, I have been in favour of killing them. I will be in favour of killing them tomorrow and next week and next year. So, unborn babies, too bad for you. I am in favour that you should be killed, then the person turn around and say I want to receive Holy Communion. Do you need any Cardinal from the Vatican to answer that?

Laughing, Arroyo responded, “It should be pretty transparent.” To which the Cardinal concluded, “Simple, ask the children for First Communion, they'll give you the answer.”

Similarly, Cardinal Arinze ruled out Communion for homosexual activists.

Arroyo noted that while some US bishops have refused Communion to Rainbow Sash activists, others such as Archbishop Harry Flynn of Minneapolis - St. Paul have not. Flynn, after meeting with Cardinal Arinze in Rome recently, suggested that the Cardinal was open to allowing communion for Rainbow Sash activists.

Arroyo first confirmed the meeting with Archbishop Flynn took place. “Did such a conversation take place between you and this archbishop?,” asked Arroyo, to which Cardinal Arinze responded, “Yes.”

Arroyo followed with “And were you open to allowing this group to receive Communion as he inferred in some of the newspapers.”

The Vatican Cardinal responded, “No, no. You see, let's get it clear. These rainbow sash people, are they really saying we are homosexuals, we intend to remain so and we want to receive Holy Communion. The question arises; take the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It says it is not condemning a person for having homosexual tendency. We don't condemn anybody for that. But a person stands condemned for acting on it.”

On homosexuality the Cardinal was clear. “The Catholic Church has never accepted homosexuality as normal. You read the scripture. It's very clear. What exactly are we examining? Are we going to change Divine Law, how God made us?”

22 posted on 04/05/2005 9:47:54 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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If Arinze, a conservative African, who can be feisty, will give the liberals fits, then he certainly would be my choice. Anyone that would get the likes of "sister" Chittister, "father" McBrien, "father" Greeley, or "cardinal" Baloney (er...Mahony) all bent out of shape would have to have some good in them.


23 posted on 04/05/2005 9:57:44 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: The Iguana

You are very fortunate to have spent time with this man.


24 posted on 04/05/2005 10:08:44 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: watsonfellow

just thought I should post on this thread. actually, the book sounds interesting.


25 posted on 04/05/2005 10:10:36 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. http://209.245.58.70/frosty65/ Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: NYer
Laughing, Arroyo responded, “It should be pretty transparent.” To which the Cardinal concluded, “Simple, ask the children for First Communion, they'll give you the answer.”

He may not be as great a philosopher as the past pope, but simple, straight-forward answers are always desirable, particularly in this age of media spin.

26 posted on 04/05/2005 10:23:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: watsonfellow

Bump.


27 posted on 04/05/2005 11:42:10 AM PDT by fdcc
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You are very fortunate to have spent time with this man.

Don't think I don't know it!

28 posted on 04/05/2005 2:50:04 PM PDT by The Iguana
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To: FreedomSurge

Mel Gibson for honorary cardinal.


29 posted on 04/05/2005 4:26:18 PM PDT by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: NYer

I've followed Cardinal Arinze ever since I heard about him making a speech at Georgetown Univerisity--the liberal parents and faculty got up in arms about his speech that was pro-life, and pro-family.

I think he would make a wonderful Pope. And that only increases the more I learn about the man.

http://www.wf-f.org/Arinze-Georgetown.html


30 posted on 04/06/2005 9:24:33 AM PDT by Betis70
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I think he would make a wonderful Pope. And that only increases the more I learn about the man.

Consider the prophecy of St. Malachy regarding the next pope. He refers to him as "Gloria Olivae" Translated: The Glory of the Olive. The olive branch is the universal symbol of peace. Arinze has spent the last 20 years working to foster understanding among Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc. He is multi lingual and traditionalist. IMHO, we may well see white smoke for a black pope.

31 posted on 04/06/2005 9:30:50 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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