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To: longtermmemmory; kellynla
These are Eastern Orthodox:

Autocephalous churches
Orthodox Church of Constantinople
Orthodox Church of Alexandria
Orthodox Church of Antioch
Orthodox Church of Jerusalem
Russian Orthodox Church
Georgian Orthodox and Apostolic Church
Serbian Orthodox Church
Romanian Orthodox Church
Bulgarian Orthodox Church
Orthodox Church of Cyprus
Church of Greece
Polish Orthodox Church
Albanian Orthodox Church
Czech and Slovak Orthodox Church

Autonomous churches
Orthodox Church of Mount Sinai (under the Patriarch of Jerusalem)
Finnish Orthodox Church (under the Patriarch of Constantinople)
Estonian Orthodox Church (under the Patriarch of Constantinople)
Japanese Orthodox Church (under the Patriarch of Moscow)
Chinese Orthodox Church (under the Patriarch of Moscow)
Ukrainian Orthodox Church (under the Patriarch of Moscow)
Metropolia of Western Europe (under the Patriarch of Moscow)
Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric (under the Patriarch of Belgrade)

Churches with ambiguous status, isolated churches in non-communion, and churches in resistance
The Orthodox Church in America (Autocephaly not universally recognized)
Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia
The Orthodox Church of Greece (Holy Synod in Resistance)
The Old Calendar Orthodox Church of Romania
The Old Calendar Orthodox Church of Bulgaria
Church of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of Greece - the Paleoimerologites
Belorussian Autocephalous Orthodox Church
Macedonian Orthodox Church (recognizes all other mainstream Churches but is not recognised by any of them)
Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church

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These are Eastern Rite Catholics:

Byzantine liturgical tradition:
Albanian Catholic Church
Belarussian Catholic Church
Bulgarian Catholic Church
Byzantine Catholic Church in America
Croatian Byzantine Catholic Church
Czech Catholic Church
Georgian Catholic Church
Hungarian Catholic Church
Melkite Catholic Church
Romanian Catholic Church
Russian Catholic Church
Ruthenian Catholic Church
Slovak Catholic Church
Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church

Antiochene liturgical tradition:
Maronite Catholic Church
Syrian Catholic Church
Syro-Malankara Catholic Church

Chaldean liturgical tradition:
Chaldean Catholic Church
Syro-Malabar Catholic Church

Armenian liturgical tradition:
Armenian Catholic Church

Alexandrian liturgical tradition:
Coptic Catholic Church
Ethiopian Catholic Church

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They are NOT the same; the Eastern Orthodox are NOT Catholics, even if they are "catholic" in some abstract sense. Might I remind you that the Orthodox and Catholics had excommunicated one another between 1054 and 1965. You could not be much less Catholic than that.. The Eastern Orthodox define "the ecumenical church" as all churches in full communion with them - that does not include the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholics define "the ecumenical church" as all churches that accept the canons of all 21 ecumenical councils - that does not include Eastern Orthodoxy.

The Orthodox reject 14 Councils of the Catholic Church; the Catholics reject 2 Councils of the Orthodox Church. They are not in communion with one another, and aren't very likely to be anytime soon (good intentions notwithstanding).

If you've read and learned differently, you need to find yourself some more accurate reading material. For starters, try the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia: Eastern Churches.

155 posted on 04/04/2005 9:16:20 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

thanks for laying that out, it is very confusing. i was baptized in the Ukrainian Greek Catholic church, which is eastern rite. my mom was roman catholic, but my dad had to actually convert to Roman catholic so that my brother and i could attend catholic school, back in the 60s.


164 posted on 04/04/2005 9:20:00 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: AntiGuv

You still haven't documented that the Eastern Orthodox are not Catholic. I'm sure the Eastern Orthodox would be outraged to be accused of NOT being Catholic!


168 posted on 04/04/2005 9:22:06 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: AntiGuv

And using your source:

"all these Eastern-Rite Catholics of course agrees in the same Catholic Faith"

Class dismissed!


172 posted on 04/04/2005 9:25:40 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: AntiGuv
...the Eastern Orthodox are NOT Catholics....

They're Catholic, they're just not Roman Catholic.

180 posted on 04/04/2005 9:32:08 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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