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To: Mark in the Old South
If I had said it about the democrats I doubt many would blame me.

No, if fact I say that about Dems

There is life after the GOP. You just have to believe me.

Oh, I believe you

Consider it a act of faith.

It's an act of great faith.

The first step is to stop drinking the koolaide.

Now, what the heck does that mean?

I have no intention of giving up but I will not vote for people I have very serious doubts.

Neither will I but you are saying ALL Pubs which includes people like Delay & Santorum.

The credibility of GOP politicians is very much in doubt.

I look at the GOP as a means, not an end. There are a lot of weak, corrupt people who are Republicans.

It is your right to do so, but it amazes me how many seem to consider it also their right to deny me mine.

How is attempting to get you to change your view, denying you a right?

There are third parties just as the GOP was once a third party.

Third parties hurt conservatives. Think Ross Perot or Washington State.

More GOP Senators will not make a difference

More conservative senators will and even replacing radical leftist Dems with moderate Pubs will.

What good will that do when the judges the GOP picks turn out as bad as the Dims.

That's a point but the solution isn't third party. The solution is to pressure leglislatures to take on judges as they tried to with Terri's case.

184 posted on 04/04/2005 9:23:55 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
Re: "Neither will I but you are saying ALL Pubs which includes people like Delay & Santorum."

Yes that is what I am saying. Less so with Delay but without a doubt Santorum has lost me. Are you forgetting the Specter nightmare? I can think of no better example of someone who stabs us in the back. Feel differently if you must, but real changes are required to persuade me.

Re: "How is attempting to get you to change your view, denying you a right?"

I was referring to many people not you in particular. You would have a better chance of succeeding if real substance was accomplished in the Congress and the White House. So far I only see lip service. People seem to think that is a viable substitute, it isn't. The GOP has wasted the last several years, are they going to continue to waste time in the next year and a half? If you want to jawbone someone try your GOP politician. If you succeed you will not need to "talk" me into anything I will beg to have the honor of voting GOP. However I fear most on some level know the GOP is not going to do a darn thing so they go the path of least resistance, jawbone folks like me. Don't waste your time.

Re: "Third parties hurt conservatives. Think Ross Perot or Washington State."

What conservatives are you talking about. Real one or those who play one on political ads? I do not believe they are real conservatives. Why don't you get this?

Re: To my "More GOP Senators will not make a difference"
You responded: "More conservative senators will and even replacing radical leftist Dems with moderate Pubs will."

?????? I can not figure out what you are trying to say. The problem as I see it is the politicians CLAIM to be conservative then do nothing other than engage in the same old corrupt practices that they were sent to reform. Abortion seems a scheme to shake down prolife groups for campaign contributions. Must not end the evil it will cut off the money making machine. Santorum is a great example of political calculations over moral values. You vote for him, I will not. All I see is lip service.

Re: "...the solution isn't third party. The solution is to pressure legislatures to take on judges as they tried to with Terri's case."

You have noticed she is dead, haven't you? There are things they can do but refuse. Things that do not have as high a bar as impeachment. Contempt of Congress not just a threat that is rescinded as soon as the bluff is called. I am so underwhelmed by their efforts. Be impressed if you must, I have higher expectations.
185 posted on 04/04/2005 9:53:19 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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