Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

For those of you leaving, staying, watching the show.
FR | 4-1-05 | Bob J

Posted on 04/01/2005 9:51:33 PM PST by Bob J

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 521-526 next last
To: little jeremiah
Because I misspelled his name in the dang address box, that's why. :-p

I did not mean to suggest that the topic you were discussing is unimportant. I find it fascinating myself - but deism is not always biblical and sometimes in contravention - Jefferson wrote a deist "bible," for example. But there, you see I'm wandering off topic myself...

161 posted on 04/01/2005 11:51:02 PM PST by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST

"It's a pitiful state to be in when one believes that any type of document trumps the bible."

What if you've never read the Bible? I think it's a pitiful state when people think the Bible should trump the freedom of the people or the person.


162 posted on 04/01/2005 11:51:03 PM PST by Sun Soldier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: hleewilder

BTW, how do you estimate all the men who wrote as well as signed our founding docuemnts informed themselves about right and wrong?


163 posted on 04/01/2005 11:51:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: It's me

I had a temper tantrum once, and left... and then came back, and ate the crow. lol


164 posted on 04/01/2005 11:52:01 PM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Critter

18,428


165 posted on 04/01/2005 11:53:07 PM PST by hole_n_one
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 160 | View Replies]

To: Sun Soldier

Read my post below yours.

The basic rules of human civilization are universal and listed in practically every religion in the world. They also happen to be in the Bible.

Should we reject them for that reason?


166 posted on 04/01/2005 11:53:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: Bob J
FYI.....

Your post and subsequent thread is falling apart.

167 posted on 04/01/2005 11:54:24 PM PST by hole_n_one
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justshe

No,indeed, and that was far worse than the Elian dustup was.


168 posted on 04/01/2005 11:54:33 PM PST by nopardons
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: Bob J

I think the recent issue has totally splintered the site, and it should be interesting to see whether people coalesce once again against the common foe. I've stayed almost completely off all the Shiavo threads because tempers are just too hot, and there's no possible way two people on a thread that see the issue different can politely disagree. At least, I haven't seen that anywhere. BTW, us old guys should, in my opinion, get a small benefit of the doubt, especially ones from 2000 or older ;)


169 posted on 04/01/2005 11:54:50 PM PST by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill

Sorry I'm a bit testy. Or short of sleep!

Little jeremiah's better half is sleeping peacefully while I hunch over the computer unable to tear myself away.

I put a link to this thread over on Poobah's opus, I figured if a few read Bob J's words it'd do some good.

Nighty night, all!


170 posted on 04/01/2005 11:56:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies]

To: justshutupandtakeit
The only possible "torture" for Terri was not allowing her to pass over a decade ago.

Perhaps, but the doctors and the judges showed their collective cowardess, by the method they chose, ie. starvation/dehydration. If they were so confident in the rightness of their decisions and actions, why did they not use a lethal injection, which, in my opinion would have been more humane?

Let's not get started. It's over, but then again, it's just getting started.

171 posted on 04/01/2005 11:56:33 PM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 159 | View Replies]

To: Critter

you are 18428


172 posted on 04/01/2005 11:57:41 PM PST by jpsb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 160 | View Replies]

To: hole_n_one

It can't be all textbook.

This is the lab work.


173 posted on 04/01/2005 11:57:50 PM PST by Flyer ( http://dahtcom.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | View Replies]

To: hole_n_one

Not really. Actually fairly polite give and take, back and forth.

Just 'cause we're not holding hands and playing ring around the rosie.


174 posted on 04/01/2005 11:57:56 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | View Replies]

To: leadpenny
Did you watch the entire L&H marathon, or just a few of the movies?

Are you an L&H fan?

175 posted on 04/02/2005 12:02:30 AM PST by nopardons
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 129 | View Replies]

To: jpsb; hole_n_one

Thanks to both.

What's the current member count? Just curious.


176 posted on 04/02/2005 12:02:52 AM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 172 | View Replies]

To: jveritas

I was still a lurker during the Elien days, but it was fairly simple. It was a matter of priorities. Everyone pretty much agreed that provided he was fit, a child belonged with his father. Everyone pretty much agreed that a child was better off in Florida than in Cuba. Unfortunately, that's where the rubber met the road. Those who gave the higher priority to keeping a boy with his father were excoriated by those who believed it was best he stay in America, even if it meant he would never see his father again. The latter in turn called the former every name in the book. It was pure ugliness.


177 posted on 04/02/2005 12:05:08 AM PST by Melas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Critter
Go to your (or anyone else's) personal page. Click on "In Forum." That FReeper's sign-up sequence # will be in the "Address" line.
178 posted on 04/02/2005 12:05:40 AM PST by leadpenny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 160 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
Ya just never know when an outbreak of ring-around-the-rosie is gonna break out.......


179 posted on 04/02/2005 12:05:54 AM PST by hole_n_one
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 174 | View Replies]

To: HiTech RedNeck; OH Swing Voter; Bob J; All
There's no way a sane soul can fail to see that this leads to an enslavement to forces far worse than mere political oppression.

I don't see how anyone could be a conservative and not value life. To me that is part of the definition of a conservative.

 I'm not meaning to single out anyone in particular, but this is a very good example of part of what has been happening for the past few weeks and what is so detrimental for the forum.   It seems that the Schiavo tragedy has brought out a lot of polarizing approaches and behaviors in FReepers.  And I'm talking about FReepers who are on both sides of this issue.   On any given day & at any given moment, people seem to be slipping into a momentary lapse in good judgment, overcome with emotion and displaying a dichotomous "all or nothing" behavior that's contributing to the chaos.  And to make it worse, some people are highly sensitive about it.   Many of the people posting on the Terri threads are slipping into this 'absolutes' mindset, seemingly unable to understand nor accept any other viewpoint but their own. It doesn't matter who started it; it just is.

FR is not a place where a person is going to be happy if he cannot tolerate other people's points of view and have a rational, intelligent discourse, especially when discussing something as polarizing as end-of-life issues.  When speaking about viewpoints and opinions, there are no 'absolutes' at FR (other than "What the owner says, goes.").   FReepers come from all sorts of backgrounds and have all different kinds of opinions and viewpoints.  Yet we all fall under the big "conservative" tent.

Again, I'm not saying the alleged "kill Terri" crowd is innocent in this thing, by any means.  Obviously, they are highly p.o.'d and some really cruel and hurtful comments have been made.   I've tried to stay more or less neutral on this thing, hoping I could try to inject a little levity or balance into the conversation whenever I saw an opportunity.  But just yesterday, this was the defensive response from someone:

My comments:

I may post a thread later that says I fed my cat tonight. Someone will ask me if my cat is named Terri.

LOL!

I was thinking about this today and I think I figured it all out. There are many people here who have been following Terri for years. Those Shiavo threads have been around for what seems like forever. And all those people are heavily invested emotionally in her, much more so than for those of us who just started paying attention to it in the last 2 weeks. In other words, they're grieving. And don't laugh -- it's real. It's going to take a while for them to work through all the accompanying emotions, that's all.

I really wish everyone could stop expecting so much from the other side. And I mean both sides.

One side needs to stop expecting everyone else at FR to be grieving and boo-hooing like they are, and the other side needs to let the 1st side grieve without laughing at them in public and saying they're maniacal nutcases.

Dang, I should charge for this.

 

Someone's response: 

"Those Shiavo threads have been around for what seems like forever. And all those people are heavily invested emotionally in her, much more so than for those of us who just started paying attention to it in the last 2 weeks."

Wow, you just started paying attention 2 weeks ago? I guess us Freepers that have paid attention to it for years(did you avoid the threads for years?) must be wack-jobs that are overzealous about the idea "right to life"

Here's a suggestion: if you avoided the issue for years, why don't you hold on to that trend and just leave us "heavily invested emotionally in her" Freepers alone? You won't have to insult us with your presumed indifference and hence don't have to wait until we can "stop expecting everyone else at FR to be grieving and boo-hooing like (we) are"

You are now officially, in regards to this issue and by your own declaration, the "other side". You should shudder when you realize the ideoligical company you share.

 

This person was so defensive, he automatically assumed I was saying something I was not saying.  This is happening way too much on both sides.

Just like the Elian matter, it's getting  old.

It's time for an amnesty.


(Again, I'm not trying to pick on anyone here. It's just that those 2 comments came within 6 replies of the thread being posted.)

180 posted on 04/02/2005 12:06:26 AM PST by Nita Nupress
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 521-526 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson