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To: Dr. Frank fan
"defend on their merits the "fact" that food is "medical treatment",

Who cares?

Someone had to make a determination as to the wishes of the patient. Florida law commanded Judge Greer to make that determination if he had "clear and convincing evidence". He said he did.

Who cares if the feeding tube is a "machine" or not? Or if food is "medical treatment" or not.

Judge Greer determined that Terri would not wish to live with a feeding tube and ordered it removed.

"casual comment "remembered" 7 years after the fact"

Whoa! Remembered? So you're saying that Michael forgot Terri's wishes, then "remembered" them 7 years later?

Oh, this should be good. Where did you get your information that Michael forgot? Something he said? Some statement he made? Something he wrote down?

"Can you explain rationally why that would "scare" you?"

What's scary is that people like you would force spouses to care for their brain damaged loved ones despite their verbal wishes to the contrary. That they would suffer financially and emotionally because nosy do-gooders like yourself know better as to what's good for the patient.

Get a life. Your own.

635 posted on 04/02/2005 10:27:19 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Who cares if the feeding tube is a "machine" or not? Or if food is "medical treatment" or not.

I care. You've proven that you don't. It's not medical treatment, any more than feeding a newborn.

So you're saying that Michael forgot Terri's wishes, then "remembered" them 7 years later?

He either conveniently "forgot" to mention her wish while he was working the legal system to collect his million-plus and promising to care for her for the rest of her life, OR he made it up after he got his money. Your choice, but those are the only two that are possible. The fact that these are the only two choices available is what makes Greer's ruling untenable.

What's scary is that people like you would force spouses to care for their brain damaged loved ones despite their verbal wishes to the contrary.

What's scary is that there are probably others, hopefully few in number, offing their spouses in similar situations, except they aren't craven enough to start up a new "relationship" with another woman and have two kids by her, and they don't have relatives who respect life to oppose them.

Thankfully, you're in Zogby's 9%. It's much better over here in the 70%-plus group that doesn't plan to off their spouse the minute it becomes a bit inconvenient.

640 posted on 04/02/2005 10:45:03 AM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: robertpaulsen
[defend on their merits the "fact" that food is "medical treatment",] Who cares?

Heh.. I'd think someone who claimed to care about facts would care. My mistake. You don't care whether saying food=medical treatment makes sense: got it!

Someone had to make a determination as to the wishes of the patient. Florida law commanded Judge Greer to make that determination if he had "clear and convincing evidence". He said he did.

And, he was wrong.

Who cares if the feeding tube is a "machine" or not? Or if food is "medical treatment" or not.

Well, I do. As you can see others do as well. You're saying you don't. Message received. Why are you commenting on this thread then, one wonders?

Judge Greer determined that Terri would not wish to live with a feeding tube and ordered it removed.

That is correct. That is what happened. Thanks.

Whoa! Remembered? So you're saying that Michael forgot Terri's wishes, then "remembered" them 7 years later?

He made no mention of the alleged statement for X years and then mentioned it at the end of those X years. Whether he "forgot" the statement in the intervening time has no bearing on my point.

Oh, this should be good. Where did you get your information that Michael forgot? Something he said? Some statement he made? Something he wrote down?

You invented this "forgot" thing and are now busy attacking your straw-man. Having fun?

What's scary is that people like you would force spouses to care for their brain damaged loved ones

That's just a lie. Nobody was proposing to "force" Michael Schiavo to care for Terri. Indeed, Terri's parents were proposing to care for her, because they wanted to. Weren't you paying attention? You don't appear to know the most basic facts about the Schiavo case.

That they would suffer financially and emotionally because nosy do-gooders like yourself know better as to what's good for the patient.

So you wish to have the right to kill people for "financial" and "emotional" reasons, I take it?

Get a life. Your own.

Hold old are you?

642 posted on 04/02/2005 10:52:47 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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