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Ill. Druggists Must Dispense Birth Control
AP ^ | 4/1/05 | MAURA KELLY LANNAN

Posted on 04/01/2005 4:38:31 PM PST by traderrob6

CHICAGO - Gov. Rod Blagojevich approved an emergency rule Friday requiring pharmacies to fill birth control prescriptions quickly after a Chicago pharmacist refused to fill an order because of moral opposition to the drug.

The emergency rule takes effect immediately for 150 days while the administration seeks a permanent rule.

Our regulation says that if a woman goes to a pharmacy with a prescription for birth control, the pharmacy or the pharmacist is not allowed to discriminate or to choose who he sells it to," Blagojevich said. "No delays. No hassles. No lectures."

Under the new rule, if a pharmacist does not fill the prescription because of a moral objection, another pharmacist must be available to fill it without delay.


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To: briant

Given our judiciary's propendency to make law up out of foreign sources, it wouldn't surprise me if they make such a mandate for OB/GYNs out of such. I know from reading that South Africa (drafted under Mandela) already has such a law requiring all licensed OB/GYNs to perform abortions as requested, as do a few other countries...


61 posted on 04/01/2005 5:22:43 PM PST by Schwaeky (TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE---IMPEACH THE WHOLE JUDICIAL BRANCH)
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To: abovethefray
Can someone remind me why Republicans are tarred with the 'nazi' tag?

I always thought it was because Republicans favor a strong military, as Hitler did for his nefarious purposes. The comparison stops there, as far as I am concerned.

62 posted on 04/01/2005 5:23:44 PM PST by GenXFreedomFighter (We smirked our way back to a second term!)
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To: marsh_of_mists
What you do not seem to understand is that men and women of conscience cannot do things that they know to be evil, no matter what your all-powerful, all-mighty government tells them to do.

Now it was required not so long ago by National Socialist and Communist authorities that doctors must, as a condition of their licensure and as a matter of law, execute ("euthanize") the weak and the infirm. You would have insisted the doctors do this because medicine in a government regulated industry, and we must do whatever the government demands.

63 posted on 04/01/2005 5:25:13 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: marsh_of_mists
Now, if you disagree with this system, fight to change it in one way or the other. Advocate deregulation of the medical establishment. Claim that pharmacists should be considered solely private merchants, and not require governmentally issued licenses to practice their trade. But the idea that pharmacists should be able to pick and choose which prescriptions they fill out runs entirely against the current system, for better or for worse.

Do I understand your position to be that if you are licensed by the gov't to conduct business, then you shouldn't object when they place some stricture on how you conduct your business?

64 posted on 04/01/2005 5:26:32 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

The state pharmacy board disciplined him for his actions. He may want to be more careful when choosing his employer to avoid having to be asked to fill birth control prescriptions.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=20614


65 posted on 04/01/2005 5:27:55 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Schwaeky

They make the guy pulling the "trigger" have to do it from afar. They don't see their evil up close and the guy doing the deeds can say he had no choice. Typical statist evil set in motion.


66 posted on 04/01/2005 5:28:55 PM PST by briant
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To: marsh_of_mists
But the idea that pharmacists should be able to pick and choose which prescriptions they fill out runs entirely against the current system, for better or for worse.

Your socialistic assumptions are simply wrong. Taxi cab drivers are also licensed by the government but they are not required to drive in neighborhoods they don't like. In the same way, law enforcement agents are not legally required to answer every call for help. This wasn't a case of discrimination against a racial group or some other protected class, it was a refusal to participate in an immoral action. No profession requires this kind of act of its members, including the military.

Furthermore, your desire to coerce a profession into engaging in behavior they object to is the realm of the legislature, not the governor or the judiciary.

67 posted on 04/01/2005 5:29:29 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: sittnick
And what about Catholics like me who would RATHER get my prescriptions from somebody who won't get his hands involved in abortifacients?

Find some capital and open a Catholic-friendly pharmacy.
68 posted on 04/01/2005 5:30:08 PM PST by augggh (Music is the Best....thanks Frank!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Well, there is such a thing as civil disobedience (if a pharmacist wanted to continue refuses to take birth control perscriptions in defiance of the goverment), but under that tradition you have to accept legal penalties imposed in you. Unless you think--and I don't think you do--that our current establishment is so corrput we should openly rebel against it.


69 posted on 04/01/2005 5:31:06 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: guitarist
Did he crumble her paper and throw it away? Let her go elsewhere if that pharmacist wants nothing to do with it.

He refused to transfer her presciption from his employer, KMart, to Walmart, although the Walmart pharmacist requested it. He was disciplined by the Wisconsin Pharmacy Board. I would assume he's appealing their decision.

70 posted on 04/01/2005 5:31:16 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: vbmoneyspender

You can object, but if you break the law you have to accept the consequences. I see no injustice in this regulation, in recquires pharmacists to fill prescriptions by doctors.


71 posted on 04/01/2005 5:33:15 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Catspaw
The state pharmacy board disciplined him for his actions.

No they haven't. The state Pharmacy Examining Board hasn't ruled yet.

72 posted on 04/01/2005 5:36:12 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: marsh_of_mists

What happened here is that the pharmacist refused to fill a prescription. After the fact, the governor then passed a decree that compels other pharmacists facing similar situations to act differently than this pharmacist did. So the question is not whether the pharmacist should have obeyed the governor's decree given that the decree did not exist when the pharmacist refused to fill the prescription. The question is whether what the governor has done in issuing the decree is the right thing to do. In my opinion it isn't. You think the opposite. It seems to me that that is the main issue, but you keep retreating to the argument that 'we must do what we are told if we are licensed by the gov't.' To me that argument just avoids the issue.


73 posted on 04/01/2005 5:40:08 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

The judge has ruled. He haD 15 days to file an objection. The full board will rule later this month.


74 posted on 04/01/2005 5:42:27 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: traderrob6

Next step: Forcing pharmacists to give out medicines to kill grandmom...

I was failed in my medical school OB rotation for not doing abortions...and when I worked in the Indian Health service, I was reprimanded for not getting up at 3 am to give a careless lady the morning after pill (not a rape case...she was drunk, but old enough to know better).

In both cases, I threatened lawsuit and got away with it, because I was known to be a Christian. My girlfriend, a Hindu, will not take animal life but was forced to do abortions...

So what else is new?


75 posted on 04/01/2005 5:44:08 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Catspaw

No, the judge merely made a recommendation.


76 posted on 04/01/2005 5:44:27 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

I think there's another way to look at it. You say, the druggist should find another line of work, if he doesn't approve of dispensing birth control pills. You invoked a "lifestyle" issue, talking about Viagra, gays, etc. I think you missed the point altogether.

The pharmacist is pro-life, and views dispensing the pills as participating in murder. A moral stand.

Do you have any moral stands? And what is your line of work? What if you were requested to do what you do for someone you disapprove of, on strong moral grounds, and the government said No, you must do it? That's the issue: Can the government force you to do something against moral and/or religious beliefs.

As for this instance, it's not about the lifestyle. It's about life.


77 posted on 04/01/2005 5:44:52 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: marsh_of_mists
Therefore, the government does have certain control over him, as it does over doctors. I think pharmacists should be obligated to fill prescriptions given by licensed doctors.

actually, a pharmacist, like a nurse in the hospital, is a professional. They can disobey orders if not appropriate...for example, if a druggie comes in with a large prescription of Lortab or dilaudid from a local quack, the druggist can refuse to fill it...

I once had a young patient dying of cancer, who required huge doses of morphine to relieve pain...one nurse refused to give it, so I sat there and pushed in 10 mg morphine every ten minutes until he was comfortable, then we kept him on a slow drip titrated to keep him asleep/pain free but respiratory rate over 10...he died the next day, of pneumonia, not of an overdose...

78 posted on 04/01/2005 5:48:23 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: vbmoneyspender

I think that pharmacists should be recquired fill out prescriptions given by doctors--at least under the system we have now, in which this is the way citizens obtain their prescribed medicine.


79 posted on 04/01/2005 5:52:10 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: marsh_of_mists

Uh oh, you're bringing sanity to the discussion. Get ready!


80 posted on 04/01/2005 5:54:34 PM PST by OldFriend ( SAW MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ON CSPAN........AWESOME)
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