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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: mom3boys

thanks for that great find!


841 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:00 PM PST by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

The Vicar said that during the saying of the rosary and now this is his statement released by the Vatican Press Office: "This evening Christ opens the door to this Pope."


842 posted on 04/01/2005 3:18:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

I am sorry you are upset but the Vicar is close to the situation and the doctors have said that he will not make it through the night and the Vicar is just passing on what he knows. It is the Vicar's duty to tell us what is happening. The Pope knows that he is dying. He has fought to over come the pneumonia but while his spirit is strong, his body is weakened by infections and his organs are shutting down.

Peace be with you.


843 posted on 04/01/2005 3:22:03 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

we don't care about spelling here


844 posted on 04/01/2005 3:28:32 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: fortunecookie
We aim to please!

I had to get rid of my last tagline as it contained a line from Beavis and Butthead...

845 posted on 04/01/2005 3:35:36 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: rampage8; Knitting A Conundrum
Tell me what the third secret is, too. I am going to have to go back and read all of this and all of the other Pope thread.

Kate

846 posted on 04/01/2005 3:37:52 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: Kate of Spice Island

Well, the secret is made up of three distinct parts, two of which I am now going to reveal.

The first part is the vision of hell.
The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.

I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

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Comment by CARDINAL ANGELO SODANO

The vision of Fatima concerns above all the war waged by atheistic systems against the Church and Christians, and it describes the immense suffering endured by the witnesses of the faith in the last century of the second millennium. It is an interminable Way of the Cross led by the Popes of the twentieth century.

According to the interpretation of the “little shepherds”, which was also confirmed recently by Sister Lucia, “the Bishop clothed in white” who prays for all the faithful is the Pope. As he makes his way with great difficulty towards the Cross amid the corpses of those who were martyred (Bishops, priests, men and women Religious and many lay people), he too falls to the ground, apparently dead, under a hail of gunfire.

After the assassination attempt of 13 May 1981, it appeared evident that it was “a mother's hand that guided the bullet's path”, enabling “the Pope in his throes” to halt “at the threshold of death” (Pope John Paul II, Meditation from the Policlinico Gemelli to the Italian Bishops, Insegnamenti, XVII, 1 [1994], 1061). On the occasion of a visit to Rome by the then Bishop of Leiria-Fatima, the Pope decided to give him the bullet which had remained in the jeep after the assassination attempt, so that it might be kept in the shrine. By the Bishop's decision, the bullet was later set in the crown of the statue of Our Lady of Fatima.

The successive events of 1989 led, both in the Soviet Union and in a number of countries of Eastern Europe, to the fall of the Communist regimes which promoted atheism. For this too His Holiness offers heartfelt thanks to the Most Holy Virgin. In other parts of the world, however, attacks against the Church and against Christians, with the burden of suffering they bring, tragically continue. Even if the events to which the third part of the “secret” of Fatima refers now seem part of the past, Our Lady's call to conversion and penance, issued at the start of the twentieth century, remains timely and urgent today. “The Lady of the message seems to read the signs of the times—the signs of our time—with special insight... The insistent invitation of Mary Most Holy to penance is nothing but the manifestation of her maternal concern for the fate of the human family, in need of conversion and forgiveness” (Pope John Paul II, Message for the 1997 World Day of the Sick, No. 1, Insegnamenti, XIX, 2 [1996], 561).


847 posted on 04/01/2005 3:51:16 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: PhiKapMom
and the Pope asked -- "Are you sick?"

ROFL!

848 posted on 04/01/2005 3:53:50 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Does my American flag offend you? Dial 1-800-LEAVE THE USA!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I hadn't thought about it that way but it will be a bigger media circus than the entire presidential campaign that we just went through. On the brighter side, there will be no campaigning and no dufus to follow. It will be the media making themselves the dufuses.

I knew it was coming and it is hard to take. Somewhere Ihave a joke that is long and drawn out about a couple of priests that work their way up and the Italian one loses out to the Irish one...bottom line, the Italian had the last name as Secola. Put Pope in front of that...

849 posted on 04/01/2005 4:02:01 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: Kate of Spice Island

OOOOOhhhhh...you don't know how funny that is...especially in Utah, where the Mormon church owns a big piece of Pepsi...


850 posted on 04/01/2005 4:14:50 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: prairiebreeze

I have heard some of the funniest stories today about this Pope and his interaction with others.


851 posted on 04/01/2005 4:27:14 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: bd476
Thank you for the update, bd476

Such very sad news .. which has left me in tears :0(

Pope JPII is a very good man .. he will be missed

Be Not Afraid

You shall cross the barren desert
But you shall not die of thirst.
You shall wander far in safety
Though you do not know the way.
You shall speak your words to foreign men
And they will understand.
You shall see the face of God and live.

Chorus:
Be not afraid, I go before you always,
Come follow me, and I will give you rest.

If you pass thru' raging waters in the sea
You shall not drown.
If you walk amid the burning flames,
You shall not be harmed.
If you stand before the pow'r of hell
And death is at your side,
Know that I am with you - through it all.
(Chorus)

Blesses are the poor
for the Kingdom shall be theirs.
Blest are you that weep and mourn,
For one day you shall laugh.
And if wicked men insult and hate you all because of me,
Blessed - blessed - are you!
(Chorus)

852 posted on 04/01/2005 4:31:14 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Ciexyz
The world's cardinals have been summoned? Oh, man.

Well, then I heard on the radio today that they had not been summoned because that isn't done until after the Pope has died.

853 posted on 04/01/2005 4:40:55 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: PhiKapMom; bd476

Someone on MSNBC earlier said one of JPII's legacies is his having opened the world's eyes to the way it has "bored itself" -- that we as a race have taken the vitality out of life and somehow we've convinced ourselves that there's nothing left to aspire to, spiritually or artistically, or what have you. That's an incredible thing for a Pope to say. And he's right!


854 posted on 04/01/2005 5:05:39 PM PST by lainie
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To: rdl6989
I heard on the radio today that they had NOT been summoned

Information is still confused, apparently. Maybe they've been put on notice that the summons is imminent.

855 posted on 04/01/2005 5:16:11 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: lainie

That is incredible for the Pope to say that. The reporter back on CNN hasn't had hardly any sleep -- she travels with the Pope when he makes his travels. I have seen some of the most beautiful pictures today of the Pope on his many travels.


856 posted on 04/01/2005 5:23:36 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: Ciexyz

The Cardinal of D.C. was supposed to leave today for Rome to attend a meeting but that was cancelled and he said his plans now are to leave on Sunday for Rome.


857 posted on 04/01/2005 5:25:04 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
They had a lovely report this evening on my local Pittsburgh PA news channel, of an elderly nun in the Greensburg area who was the Pope's chauffeur in the Vatican when he was merely Cardinal Wojtyla. She served as his driver for over a decade, and after he became Pope, he still remembered her and honored her upon meeting her again. She had pictures and a prayer card that he had signed for her.

And she told a sweet little joke that she claimed made the rounds of the Vatican at that time, that Cardinal Wojtyla was known for his fervent devotion to prayer, in fact he was always seen praying fervently as she drove him around Rome...but the reason was that SHE was driving. (How sweet.)

858 posted on 04/01/2005 5:29:46 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Ciexyz

LOL!!! That's so neat! I have really enjoyed hearing the stories today about this great Pope!


859 posted on 04/01/2005 5:50:38 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
It is just sooooo Wroooong, but funny...

I know enough Mormons up there that request Bud Ice for the higher alcohol content that I think they will just have to look past it.

Kate

860 posted on 04/01/2005 5:51:57 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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