[AndrewC]

That doesn't get you anywhere near universal representation for the incapacitated unless you, again, define conflict of interest so broadly that nobody can possibly avoid it. For situations where there appears to be the potential for conflict of interest, we have judges and other to evaluate on a case-by-case basis. This is not even in the same solar system as counsel being automatically required in all cases

I repeat again, the law means something and it states "right to counsel". That is not met by someone else's counsel. You can keep presenting pretzels and imagined scenarios to your satisfaction. That does not change the law. It states clearly, "right to counsel".

[general_re]

Yeah, you have the right to counsel. You also have the right to have counsel if and when you choose to exercise that right, not when AndrewC uses the power of the state to choose for you.