[AndrewC]

Which brings us right back around to where we were before - what, exactly, do you think guardians are for? What do they do, if not protect and exercise the rights of those who cannot protect and exercise them on their own?

Which brings us back to the "right to counsel" which is distinct from the right to guardianship and is retained after being declared incapacitated. Can a father's counsel represent his child in a case involving incest by the father?

[general_re]

Can a father's counsel represent his child in a case involving incest by the father?

Oh, I see - we'll justify universal mandatory counsel by defining conflict of interest so broadly that nobody can possibly hope to avoid running afoul of it. Are you sure this is the peg you wanna hang your hat on?