Posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:11 AM PST by Eurotwit
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Him getting one of his relatives to parrot such alleged comments isn't exactly "clear and convincing" evidence. And again, nobody ever said that she said she wouldn't want to be on a feeding tube. Michael Schiavo also was quoted saying to a friend in the early 1990s, before deciding to have Terri killed, that they never discussed such matters, because they were so young. That's a bit more realistic than Terri just happening to tell only Michael Schiavo and his relatives these wishes, and not saying them to not only her family, but to friends outside either family.
When money is involved, our secular culture doesn't care about anything else. They run down their own mothers in the street to chase a buck.
Sort of. Remember, the issue was whether or not she had decided whether or not she would continue living in such a state. The judge found reason to believe she had, and the appellate courts found no reason to overturn that decision. The law just sucks in that area - the simplest way to remedy it, I suppose, would be to change the law such that life support of any sort can only be withdrawn if there is a clear written directive from the person themselves. That may wind up not being such a hot deal for people who don't want to hang around but didn't bother to do a living will, but it seems to me that this would solve the problem nevertheless. If the law had some provision like that, this whole mess would have been avoided right from the start.
He denied her the constitutionally guaranteed right to worship without government interference....by denying her communion as she lay slowly starving to death.
Actually, that's not true - she received Easter communion.
If that wasn't enough, he granted MS permission to have her cremated (while allowed by the church, many Catholics are still uncomfortable with it) and sent to Pennsylvania so that even in death she would be unable to be mourned and cared for by her friends and family.
Well, you know, as a practical legal matter, he really didn't need the judge's permission for any of that. As next-of-kin, the funeral and internment arrangements are solely at his discretion - when my (Catholic) father in law passed, my wife preferred to have him cremated and interred near us, and we all really didn't give a damn what the rest of his relatives wanted. She was an only child, he was unmarried at the time, and the law gave her absolute authority over it all, pretty much the same as Michael Schiavo. It might have been nice if he'd shown some respect for their wishes, but frankly, after a decade of the sorts of things they've been saying in public about him, I really can't fault him much for not really caring what they wanted. Assuming he's telling the truth, of course.
That was my hope and prayer too. That he would come riding in on a white horse and rescue her. I believe in the days ahead, they will realize that they could have saved her, and didn't, and it will eat at them.
Judge Greer is more powerful than our entire government combined. That kicked me in my teeth when I came to that realization. I will never be the same.
Well! There's lots and lots of money in Hollyweird. Liberals control that industry and most of the publishing world, too. They have a socialist agenda and they push it 24/7. Michael and Felos have hit the jackpot.
Thanks for the info.
The decapitation videos are something that needed to be seen, to wake up those that like to swept islamofascism under the rug. That sort of horror must not be hidden so people can pretend it didn't happen- like the MSM not wanting to show the people jumping from the WTC. Not the same thing at all as a tabloid publishing private/personal pictures.
On second thought maybe they should publish pictures if there are any. Maybe people need to be reminded starving to death is no way "peaceful" or "beautiful".
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Yes, I made myself watch the videos (Berg, Pearl, and Johnson and the 9/11 tape made by the two Frenchmen) to keep the anger and passion alive, though I have never seen anything more horrific and still have horrible nightmares at times.
People just want to walk away and talk about whose going to get voted off the island next or who wins on American Idol. Their complacency disgusts and alarms me. It's this complacency that allowed Mr. Schiavo to get to a point where he could order his wife's death.
This is a difficult one to call..the family has suffered so publicly already..
Now I don't know that...And her so-called husband had stated many times for years that he didn't know that, so how is it that you know that???
I'm sure he will fail the devils litmus test and there is a special corner in hell with his name on it.
God forgive me for such an ugly thought.
Yeah, you. "We" includes you, and writing in Michael Peroutka, Michael Badnarik, or Mickey Mouse doesn't absolve you of the responsibility for working towards change for the better. In fact, I'd say that, insofar as that likely means that 90% of your votes might as well have been flushed straight down the toilet, you've probably got more to answer for than most, since you're obviously more interested in parading your moral superiority than in making a real difference.
When money is involved, our secular culture doesn't care about anything else. They run down their own mothers in the street to chase a buck.
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I suppose that's why so many people are willing to humiliate themselves on these reality tv shows--no self respect; just media whoring and dollar chasing.
Good, God-fearing people must take this country back. Stand or fall.
Check out post 2,035 if you haven't already.
Well I believe that you are perfectly correct unless he repents and while I doubt he will we can pray for that and if he does WOW eh? And if not......I'm sure there will be a special place for him and Michael as well.
Yikes!!!!!!!!Pat ANderson just said that the AUTOPSY IS REFUSING to have a INDEPENDENT evaluation!!!!!!!
1,568 posted on 03/31/2005 4:41:38 PM CST by pollywog
I'm not new...and you need to back off me! I'm tired of reading your bickering at me!
Obviously, opinions will vary. Judges are not simple law-dispensing machines, they're humans, and they will tend to make decisions that we disagree with from time to time. That is not, in my opinion, evidence that the system is fundamentally broken, it is merely an illustration of the limits of the system. Judges travel within the parameters that we set for them, via the legislature. The narrower the parameters we set, the less likely they are to wander afield. If you're the Florida dopes, on the other hand, and you leave great gaping truck-sized holes in the law, it should hardly be surprising if judges occasionally drive right through one of those holes. The dopes would like you to blame judges for that, but that's like blaming the rain for the fact that your stuff's all wet, when you didn't bother to patch the roof.
Thats a problem these days... now they can say "you said it one time, now you got to die!"
A relief to see the ugly neo-nazi link blacked out; I hate to think of that vermin's name sullying poor Terri's picture.
Still pretty thin to hang what amounted to a death sentence on...'Gee, I just remembered, seven years ago, when we were at a picnic, Terri told me the last thing she'd ever want is to be hooked up to some machine...' -- especially when the husband/speaker is coached by a lawyer with Felos's connections. Can you imagine this happening to someone like, say, Teraysa Heinz...and Kerry getting away with it? It really is all about money.
That is the decision of the court that led to this, that this is what she wanted. That is the, shall we say, proximate cause here, that the court determined that this is what she would have wanted. Obviously there is some disagreement on that score, but that's how we got here.
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