[KDD]

Well, boy...I'll be civil if you will.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

I have not directed ANY personal attacks at you nor have I cherrypicked your posts looking for a fight. What is the basic problem that you are experiencing now?

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

I can see nowhere where there was a lack of being "civil." As far as a factual dispute on the topic, whether the sodomite revolution in the church has weakened its ability to bring a moral vision to American society that has already been admitted and discussed by numerous scholars, priests, pro-life activists, and Catholic journalists. I did not invent the idea so there is no need to attack or impute me for the phenomenon.

I see no point in debating the matter further. The books Goodbye, Good Men and Amchurch Comes Out document these matters. The Florida cases stand for themselves. There is nothing particularly revolutionary or new in calling attention to the clergy subcultures in South Beach, Key West, or Miami. These are actually cliches in the relevant circles involved.